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02-22-2010 , 01:17 AM

SVETTLEIF

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 114

villain is running 51/12/4. no real reads except that he hero called me on some weird flush board when he rivered trips a while back. do i have to fold here?

Party Poker $200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $78.38
UTG: $200.00
MP: $116.44
CO: $434.03
Hero (BTN): $474.56
SB: $366.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with K

2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, CO calls $15

Flop: ($45.00) 3

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $32.06, CO calls $32.06

Turn: ($109.12) J

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $79.59, CO calls $79.59

River: ($268.30) 8

(2 players)
CO bets $230

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02-22-2010 , 01:47 AM

methtical808

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20

u only have a pair. unless you know that he knows that ur on KKxx u cant call here

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02-22-2010 , 02:59 AM

evitooo

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,432

snap fold. even if he is bluffing with 2 pair he still has you. most likely hes guna show up with a straight somehow

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02-22-2010 , 03:33 AM

realmaniac

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u might rebluff here if u got a strong read that he would do that with a missed draw like 456x or NFD or something. his line doesnt make sense, as does his big river bet which is just way too big imo. the problem is u wont have fold equity if he doesnt have air here, because with his river bet he's already pot commited.

that said u'll have to fold. if u were deeper and had like 500 behind on the river i'd def. tend to rebluff more often

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02-22-2010 , 04:09 AM

Your Mom

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I dont think a call is terrible at all. He's either got the nuts or nothing and I don't see him making this play with 2 pair much at all.

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02-22-2010 , 05:15 PM

VONDUR

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 45

Rebluffing seems horrible since villains is likely polarized to bluffs or T9/88. He should be happy to take a showdown with any bad twopair hands since its so likely you have just an OP. Valuebetting thin would be good I guess but it seems too advanced for a 51/14 player.

He's gonna get to the river with T9 some % of the times so its simply a question of how often he bluffs when he doesn't have it. Also, I think he might get to the river with T9 more often than it looks. T9 hands make up a larger % of his hands after he calls turn,.. because he calls turn.

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02-22-2010 , 08:14 PM

SVETTLEIF

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 114

i agree with vondur. even tho i can only see KK being beat by 88 and 9T i guess those hands are gonna be in his range after calling that turn more than i realised in the heat of the moment. he's gonna have XsXs88, XsXsT9 and 789T a lot on this river and without any read of him donk/bluffing missed draws, it's a pretty easy fold prolly.

i didn't actually have KK in my hand tho

i had ace high and shoved for about 75$ more. i estimated that it could be a decent call if i would have had AA or KK and if that would have been true, then a shove would most likely fold out all hands worse than KK. same thing as calling with KK only $75 more expensive.

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02-22-2010 , 09:16 PM

monikrazy

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easy fold on river

i would check behind on this turn some of the time too as i really don't want to be cred and you're setting yourself up for a tough river

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02-23-2010 , 12:59 AM

ndahlhoff10

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I think it's kinda close, but i'm probably folding river without a read.

Pretty sure rebluffing would be awful in this spot

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02-23-2010 , 01:37 AM

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smittymatt

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Meh, does he have T9xx? Call for info but I prob fold.

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02-23-2010 , 03:15 AM

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Doorbread

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They always have it. It doesn't make sense but that's why.

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