Villain is 22/18 -14 3b en BTN

Call pf is fine? and now? c/c? c/r? lead out?

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Hero (CO): $98.50
BTN: $107.03
SB: $194.02
BB: $99.47
UTG: $82.34

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A 4 K 5
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) A 7 J (2 players)
Hero?

i fold this OOP against a 3bet, there are not much nice boards u wanna see...

what u do if AK8 rainbow hits the flop?

i would be lost in this spot, but i wouldnt be in so i dont care... probaly i would bet/fold, but may this is to nitty! i dunno, fold pre, do stay away from this ugly spots!

pf is fine.

Flop.. Bet 15 fold or cc both are fine. Depense how villain sees your donking range

I don't like this pre either, the clubs we called with have flopped a flush yet we hate life. We have basically called a 3-bet oop with 1 combo rather than 6. As played I would bet/fold, but it is a spot best avoided imo.

yeah fold>4 bet>call imo

As played i would c/c evaluate. Donking really doesn't help us in this spot, as he calls with both higher flushes and sets, sometimes floats and we don't know which he has.

i think pf is ok, though not great. i think i probably just fold the first time if button's 3-betting a lot. i just hate that the payoff card is in your hand. if it's differently suited then i'd never fold.

once you get the the flop i c/c at least one street. if the player is an aggressive barreling type i c/c all three streets. if he's tight i give up to a big bet on the turn

Ok, then:

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Hero (CO): $98.50
BTN: $107.03
SB: $194.02
BB: $99.47
UTG: $82.34

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A 4 K 5
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($25.50) A 7 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $16.00, Hero calls $16

Turn: ($57.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($57.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $30.00, BTN raises to $79.03, Hero WTF?


Emm, now that i see the hand i dont know if i can get value in the river..., 8T maybe?, AA/77/JJ?
Then, would you bet this river or c/c?

When he shoves i WTF, could he check nuts on the turn?? if i had checked the river, he couldn't shove (79$ behind in 57$ pot lol).
And i dont think he shoves with non-nut flush here... would you snap-call?

Thanks

most of this hand is fine. just check river imo, saves us making mistakes.

I don't see any hand you get value from on the river, even a blocker opens us up to a c/raise. I would just check. His turn play was odd, but it would be a brave [aka crying] call now imo.

Pretty hard to get check-raised when you're OOP.

c/c river after this turn play imo, bet out there is the worst play there imo, better stuff calls anyway and bader u dont give the chance to bluff. so c/c is the best here!

Fold preflop and check the river imo

In this hand, villain sort of "check/raised". We saw that he checked the turn. Then the river didn't change anything, and we got "check-raised".

Check/call is the best way as with that low flush you want to see SD but cheaply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

"check-raise" means something and it is not what you are describing.

i'd probably call. its such a bad bluff its hard to imagine it actually is but a flush in a 3 bet pot is the nuts.

agree with all the x/c comments... people don't like to give up once they've taken the initiative by 3betting pf.. especially IP 3bets

I rly dislike PF against a competent player. I dislike opening it the first time around (assuming he will flat and rr a lot) and I dislike calling his rr. I am with Elrazor about

fold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4bet >> call.


Donking out on the flop makes no sense what so ever. Why give his air a chance to fold instead of cbetting and why open our selves up to folding when he raises w/ blockers or a set? I would only bet out with some sick form of dynamics where I knew villain would spew raise his entire range

As a default I c/c flop but with history I am cool with c/r it.


Two important things about the river:

a) We have the best hand like 99% of the time so any line that includes clicking fold is a bad idea.

b) Our hand is reasonably face up and we need to think about how we get him to stick in money with two pair and sets. Since we should also have sets and two pair in our range (as well as the occasional straight) I am cool with vbetting as we have the top part of our range. However if he wont call with sets and straights we should prolly c/c.

I´d call river raise. this looks so much like he hopes for the board to pair to bluff, and maybe has Kc so decides to do it anyway.

Thank very much for all answers, i called and he showed KcQc... interesting play by him lol

PD: If i 4bet this (that it would a bad play) have i to call the shove then ?

no way id fold this river as played

this is the type of hand that you either check call the whole way or lead out and try to induce on one of the later streets

almost no way you can get away from the hand, i think your line is ok althought im not crazy about checking turn with so many 2pair/sets in range

and yea like i said i don't think i could fold river, especially as an agressive player is going to shove a lot there if they think you are on a steal or value betting a nonflush