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09-03-2015 , 04:03 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37095592

    BTN: $185.19 (185.2 bb)
    SB: $255.23 (255.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $157.04 (157 bb)
    UTG: $204.13 (204.1 bb)
    MP: $100 (100 bb)
    CO: $306.80 (306.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A 3 K Q
    3 folds, BTN raises to $2.49, SB folds, Hero raises to $7.97, BTN calls $5.48

    Flop: ($16.44) 4 6 K (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($16.44) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $12, BTN raises to $51, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $40.44 pot ($1.82 rake)
    Final Board: 4 6 K J
    BTN mucked and won $38.62 ($18.65 net)
    Hero mucked A 3 K Q and lost (-$19.97 net)



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    Flop check is probably fine? What about turn bet? I feel i get raised all the time when i gap my range
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    09-03-2015 , 04:06 PM
    Bonus hand, do you call here againts unknown?





      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37095594

      BTN: $149.79 (149.8 bb)
      SB: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
      BB: $71.21 (71.2 bb)
      UTG: $55.24 (55.2 bb)
      Hero (MP): $106.55 (106.6 bb)
      CO: $100 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q K A A
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.50, CO folds, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

      Flop: ($14) 3 7 6 (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $9, BTN calls $9, 2 folds

      Turn: ($32) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $18, BTN calls $18

      River: ($68) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $34, BTN raises to $119.29, Hero folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $136 pot ($2.80 rake)
      Final Board: 3 7 6 A K
      BTN mucked and won $133.20 ($68.70 net)
      Hero mucked Q K A A and lost (-$64.50 net)



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      09-03-2015 , 04:07 PM
      Why not cbet flop? He could have a lot of fd + wraps nad I'm sure that I don't want to give him a free cards. OTT in villain's shoes I could raise you for bluff all day as it seems You have nothing. So as played I would go for x/c T and think river.

      @edit
      yes I'm able to fold that as he looks with this line like he is trapping you also block Q flush, K is on board. I'm not sure if he could do that with J high. Maybe sometimes with bare 4 or 5d he could try that.
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      09-03-2015 , 07:24 PM
      1. Sometimes i would just defend it against regs but as played i would cbet and barrel on this.
      2. just lol folding for 100bb i think.
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      09-03-2015 , 08:12 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by petteriii
      I feel i get raised all the time when i gap my range
      Maybe you have selective memory. Not sure how you are capping your range, either. You don't ever check sets to xr? And since you probably don't: You never check Kxxx hands that happen to also have a jack? Any hands that have two jacks? It's basically impossible to show up with a capped range here when you're checking the hand you have on the flop -- unless you can predict what the turn will be.

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Pacx
      Why not cbet flop? He could have a lot of fd + wraps nad I'm sure that I don't want to give him a free cards.
      Think like this and you'll end up with either a 95% c-betting frequency or a horribly weak checking range.

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Pacx
      OTT in villain's shoes I could raise you for bluff all day as it seems You have nothing.
      Yes, nothing's stopping you from misinterpreting people's lines and making slightly to moderately -EV bluffraises.

      Last edited by Rei Ayanami; 09-03-2015 at 08:26 PM.
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      09-04-2015 , 07:58 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
      Yes, nothing's stopping you from misinterpreting people's lines and making slightly to moderately -EV bluffraises.
      If he wrote that he got raised all the time maybe villain spotted that he is likely to bet/fold T after x the F.

      Also idk what ranges are as he doesn't postedany stats for villain so against unknown player I find that cbet is better and 2 barrel on jack. If we have villain with high bet vs miss cb frequency we could go for x, x/c?
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      09-04-2015 , 03:51 PM
      lol @ folding that A high flush vs unknown for ~100bbs.. I would never _ever_ do that readless :-P
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      09-04-2015 , 07:07 PM
      Fold A high flush getting a zillion to one? Uhm, no thanks.
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      09-04-2015 , 10:52 PM
      Hand 1, I'd rather cbet flop. We have nothing. Yes top pair and not much else is nothing.

      Hand 2, Nitty gritty call.
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      09-05-2015 , 06:11 AM
      Hand 2 - if you guys have a K-high flush and opponent is calling F+T and raising river, would you consider folding then? I don`t see much difference, both times we have 2nd nuts and actually with straightflush he is even more likely to take this line, because he can`t be outdrawn.
      I think it`s very reasonable fold, bluffing with str8-fl blockers is not that common yet
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      09-05-2015 , 08:14 AM
      Hand 2 is a standard fold on the river holding Qd 4way to the flop singleraised

      Hate the betsizings though
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      09-05-2015 , 08:37 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Grethe
      Hand 2 is a standard fold on the river holding Qd 4way to the flop singleraised

      Hate the betsizings though
      The river bet-size could definitely induce a set to bluff-raise river. It's a situation that comes up so infrequently that given the price I'm getting I'm willing to pay villain off if he has straight flush... had we bet 75-80% pot and got raised OTR in a situation where we're getting same odds to call it off then I'd probably have the discipline to fold. But not when I think my bet-sizing could have induced against unknown villain.
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      09-05-2015 , 09:38 AM
      Holding the Qd here does not influence anything. If we hold 5d than the situation is obv totally different.
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