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PLO100 2way hand in 3way pot PLO100 2way hand in 3way pot

03-04-2010 , 08:51 PM
SB is 46/2 over 170 hands. Earlier I cbet in a 3way raised pot, got called, and he surprisingly just overcalled with 53xxhh on A42hh. In another hand I've seen him check/calling the turn with KKxx on K94ddJo after potleading flop in a HU limp pot. All in all he seems like a really really passive guy.

CO is 69/31 over 32 hands. I've seen him leading <1/2pot with KKxx on K82ss in a 4way pot after minraising UTG.

How do we play this? Anyone like raising SB's lead on the flop? Anyone like raising it the second time around?

Do we call or fold turn? If checked to by SB, do we pot turn ourselves?

Party Poker $100 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $56.40
SB: $92.04
Hero (BB): $101.50
UTG: $142.11
CO: $77.07

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 4 A 7 K
1 fold, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.00) 7 8 4 (3 players)
SB bets $2.85, Hero calls $2.85, CO raises to $14.25, SB calls $11.40, Hero calls $11.40

Turn: ($45.75) 9 (3 players)
SB bets $43.75, Hero?
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03-04-2010 , 09:42 PM
fold
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03-04-2010 , 09:44 PM
it's creative to raise the 2nd time but i think once these players have a decent piece of the flop and have called the 1st time around on the flop, they are nearly always seeing a turn, so raising the 2nd time would be just to build the pot, it won't thin the field and help to define their hands imo. i don't mind 3 betting the flop vs the sb which may be the superior play. unless you run into the top of their ranges, you'll average around 33% on the flop. the turn is an easy fold vs a passive who is donk shoving into 2 players which makes it unlikely he is bluffing/ semi bluffing. also your equity plummets.
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03-04-2010 , 10:53 PM
I'd play the same and fold turn.

If the SB checked turn, I'd check. Potting is a creative idea, but not 3ways with shallow stacks no fold equity and likely that card hits someone that called the flop raise.
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03-05-2010 , 10:27 AM
I very likely would've potted the turn myself if SB checked. Do people really dislike this?
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03-05-2010 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CZI
I very likely would've potted the turn myself if SB checked. Do people really dislike this?
I don't think potting the turn would be good at all with a card that had to hit one of them.

What about raising the flop when SB leads out? Are we only calling to pad our draw? I think the value of our two pair goes down with the overcaller so I was leaning towards raising the flop and trying to blow CO out of the hand. It should clean out some cards and help our two pair hold up as a safety valve if we miss our flush (should it be ahead of SB already).

Is that spewy?
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03-05-2010 , 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CZI
SB is 46/2 over 170 hands. Earlier I cbet in a 3way raised pot, got called, and he surprisingly just overcalled with 53xxhh on A42hh. In another hand I've seen him check/calling the turn with KKxx on K94ddJo after potleading flop in a HU limp pot. All in all he seems like a really really passive guy.

CO is 69/31 over 32 hands. I've seen him leading <1/2pot with KKxx on K82ss in a 4way pot after minraising UTG.

How do we play this? Anyone like raising SB's lead on the flop? Anyone like raising it the second time around?

Do we call or fold turn? If checked to by SB, do we pot turn ourselves?

Party Poker $100 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $56.40
SB: $92.04
Hero (BB): $101.50
UTG: $142.11
CO: $77.07

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 4 A 7 K
1 fold, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3.00) 7 8 4 (3 players)
SB bets $2.85, Hero calls $2.85, CO raises to $14.25, SB calls $11.40, Hero calls $11.40

Turn: ($45.75) 9 (3 players)
SB bets $43.75, Hero?
He's either still got 56 or he lead the flop with a draw both of which don't seem like a passives play, the hands you mentioned were probably well played and not the indicator you think they are.

You could call this turn and bomb all pairing or flush rivers if he checks but IDK what your image is like.
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03-05-2010 , 04:43 PM
I think that on the turn this is a marginal call at best. Given the stack size, CO is either shipping or folding and this makes it likely that you would have to put in additional $40 or so. Your flush is probably good, and there might be a fair chance of 7's and/or 4's being good outs too. All in all, 9 clean outs, 2 questionable and perhaps another 1.5 outs for 7s and/or 4s - i'd say 10.5 outs in total with 46 cards to come. I am not accounting for various possibilities of side pots (ie does the SB have a set, or does the CO have a set with perhaps a turned flush).... tough to say. I tend to err on the side of caution and fold in spots like this.
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