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02-10-2012 , 01:02 PM
Hi everyone, I would like to ask some questions about this had.
What do you think about this call with weak kings preflop?
Which line is better on flop? bet/call, bet/shove, or check/raise, or maby check/call?
I decide to take check/raise line. What do you think about my bet sizing on flop?

    Cake Poker, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11842092

    UTG: $9.90 (99 bb) 20/2/1.2 in 100 hands
    MP: $3.98 (39.8 bb) 89/28/3.5 in 60 hands
    CO: $43.48 (434.8 bb)
    BTN: $32.78 (327.8 bb)
    Hero (SB): $28.54 (285.4 bb)
    BB: $35.81 (358.1 bb) 69/0/1.5 in 50 hands

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K 6 K
    UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.45, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, BB calls $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

    Flop: ($1.80) 4 K A (4 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.80, Hero raises to $7.20




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    02-10-2012 , 01:10 PM
    3bet pre makes the flop a lot easier for us.

    As played, I probably b/c flop and shove a brick on the turn.
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    02-10-2012 , 02:03 PM
    I'm calling here pre-flop from sb with decent KK. I bet/shove flop.

    edit:c/r flop is fine too, but would hate to see it get checked around
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    02-10-2012 , 07:05 PM
    Yeah, I think it's just the fact that it checking around is disastrous for our hand makes me wanna lead, we get called by plenty worse but if you're sure someone is gonna bet (based on stats) getting it on otf with a c/r would be really good.
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    02-10-2012 , 07:54 PM
    call pre is fine..

    i would cbet because when you have air on that flop we always cbet

    c/r isn't bad either..but i don't like c/poting here because you want get paid by worse hand..
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    02-10-2012 , 08:17 PM
    MP is the only who can AAxx so we dont need to worry about the other larger stacks behind, check raise is good i think as MP is short.

    If MP was 100bb+, then i check call flop, eval turn
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    02-11-2012 , 09:13 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by budinho
    call pre is fine..

    i would cbet because when you have air on that flop we always cbet

    c/r isn't bad either..but i don't like c/poting here because you want get paid by worse hand..
    Why we always cbet air on that flop into 3 opponents?
    I don't like bet size either. What size do you recommend? Something like $6?
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    02-11-2012 , 10:16 AM
    Not to nit terminology, but we are not the pfr so we are not cbetting. If we were the pfr, and we had air, I see no good coming from betting into 3 other players.
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    02-11-2012 , 10:29 AM
    Call is fine PF. I also like the c/r flop better then leading.
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    02-11-2012 , 01:08 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stwhite
    3bet pre makes the flop a lot easier for us.

    As played, I probably b/c flop and shove a brick on the turn.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Except in this case, your opinion sucks donkey b*lls.
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    02-11-2012 , 01:26 PM
    Pf good. I like leading here more
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    02-13-2012 , 06:49 PM
    I feel a flat on the flop plays better. Yes there's a flush draw out there but why not let them bet, possibly someone else calls then we shove. Get more value out of our 2nd flop nuts. By C/R at this level we give away our hand 80% of the time therefore top pair may not even see the turn, maybe the flush draw folds instead.

    Gotta think about what's best value wise. Almost always going to see a flush draw continue.

    Flop we're around 70/30% favorite, so we can at times afford to gamble. Even if the turn is a club, we're not in super bad shape being 60/40% dog.

    A 3B pre I think is bad, not often are we going to hit our set outs from the get-go and position is not on our side. On top of that if the flush does hit on turn we're able to get away from out set. Although regardless I feel we should be calling...especially if its still 3 way for implied odds.

    River pairs the board we don't have much behind so our opponent is getting good odds to look us up and in some cases (not many) we may get called by both assuming we have to be bluffing.

    Don't like the c/r personally.
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    02-13-2012 , 07:49 PM
    Lead for like $1.20 in the hopes you callers who will fold over MP's raise and your re-raise.
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    02-13-2012 , 11:03 PM
    Call fine, as raiser is short, leading is better.
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    02-14-2012 , 04:04 AM
    Pot pre.. it's not even close.
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    02-14-2012 , 05:18 AM
    Definitely potting pre vs. agro short. As played c/r flop, but not that much.
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