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PLO10 - NFD+OP in 3bet pot 400bb deep PLO10 - NFD+OP in 3bet pot 400bb deep

03-07-2011 , 06:55 AM
Well almost 400bb.

Have a lot of history with villain. He plays 50/25/22, flop AF 2.6 and AFq by street 29/23/20. He's pretty spewy preflop but much less post, although he's definately capable of making plays/bluffs, like donkbetting boards like 568r in 3/4bet pots as a bluff. Fold to flop cb in 3b pot = 48%, raise flop cbet in 3b pot = 26% over 27 hands and flopc/r 10%.
I have been 3betting wider than AAx, I did show up with a lot of AA/KK in 4/5bet pots though. That said this deep my range is way more non AA heavy but not sure if he knows that.

Our plan and sizing? Do we b/3b, b/c?

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10, $0.02 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (CO): $48.21 (482.1 bb)
    BTN: $45.83 (458.3 bb)
    SB: $17 (170 bb)
    BB: $12.54 (125.4 bb)
    UTG: $12.19 (121.9 bb)
    MP: $38.50 (385 bb)

    Preflop: ($0.12) Hero is CO with K A A T
    UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.57, Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, MP calls $1.43

    Flop: ($4.37) 7 6 K (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero ?

    PLO10 - NFD+OP in 3bet pot 400bb deep Quote
    03-07-2011 , 07:52 AM
    $3. If he raises, given that we have a K, 3b and plan on shoving turns.
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    03-07-2011 , 08:39 AM
    If you don't want to stack off on this flop, then checking behind is a viable option as we don't have many hands to protect against, and villain will never give us credit for the nut flush after we check this flop. It's not like we ever have villain crushed when he stacks off for 400bb's in this situation; he'll either show up with a set or a combo draw.

    Not saying this is the right play (8/10 i'm going to stack off) but it's an option if you would rather keep your stack (and sanity) intact.
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    03-07-2011 , 08:45 AM
    Nah if b/3betting here is the most +EV then I would do that, I don't really mind playing big pots, because that's the reason I play deep tables in the first place =]
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    03-07-2011 , 09:39 AM
    ER, I feel that if we check back here, the rest of the match becomes ridiculously problematic for us if he has any brains at all. If we are checking this back because we feel uncomfortable playing it to a c/r, we are gonna feel that way about any hand we have and him c/r and bombing literally any turn/river combos with any hand is gonna make us :sad face: and should work for a decent period of time until we realize and readjust. Also, it actually may become a problem for us even if he doesnt realize this, but we do, and just lol level ourselves by immediately adjusting to counter and owning ourselves calling down light

    edit: I just read the thread title again, and reread this post, and giggled.

    OP, bet the flop no matter what you do. If you wanna keep your sanity, flat a c/r. Hes gonna have to slow down on a large number of turns no matter what he has unless he spikes a str8 draw he was c/r or it completely blanks.
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    03-07-2011 , 11:32 AM
    Bet your standard Cbet size and evaluate your options if he CR. Question for you though, if he pots on a CR are you shipping? With you having the NFD can he have anything but a set?
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    03-07-2011 , 12:23 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gimmetheloot
    $3. If he raises, given that we have a K, 3b and plan on shoving turns.
    +1
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    03-07-2011 , 01:05 PM
    yeah bet raise pot get it in unless u have reads his cr range is very heavily focused on sets this deep
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    03-07-2011 , 01:21 PM
    And that's what I did. His minraise was weird though, didn't really know what hands he would do that with. But I had good equity against almost anything so just shipped it.


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10, $0.02 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (CO): $48.21 (482.1 bb)
      BTN: $45.83 (458.3 bb)
      SB: $17 (170 bb)
      BB: $12.54 (125.4 bb)
      UTG: $12.19 (121.9 bb)
      MP: $38.50 (385 bb)

      Preflop: ($0.12) Hero is CO with K A A T
      UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.57, Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, MP calls $1.43

      Flop: ($4.37) 7 6 K (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $3.10, MP raises to $6.20, Hero raises to $22.70, MP raises to $36.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.78

      Turn: ($77.33) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($77.33) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $77.33 pot ($2.00 rake)
      Final Board: 7 6 K 3 5
      Hero showed K A A T and won $75.33 ($36.83 net)
      MP showed A 6 4 7 and lost (-$38.50 net)
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