hey,

best turn ever

villain is 75/20/AFq18
have about 200 hands on him never raised a river ....


iPoker - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $9.95
UTG: $7.38
MP: $21.14
CO: $6.27
BTN: $11.96
Hero (SB): $17.67

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 6 K Q K

UTG calls $0.10, fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.50, 5 players) 2 2 K
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold

Turn: ($1.10, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($1.10, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $0.55, CO raises to $2.75

loose passive villain -> valuebet as much as you can imho
such dry flop likely to get stabbed at, so c/r flop, bet turn.. at this point a 2 should raise, AA would call so i'd b/f turn i think

check OTT makes no sense to me at all

as played OTR i'd still have a hard time folding top fh, random spazz factor etc
i dunno if you played like this to induce a bluff you cant very well fold when you possibly get what you wanted on the river

maybe you are right and i played the hand to passiv ...

my thoughts were, that i´m playing a table full of fish, the flop is 5way and i thought c/c and let as many opponents in the pot as possible ...
OTT i thought that i´m propably not getting 3 streets of value against this opponent, so i´m going for a river bet.
OTR he snap potted ... from my experience loose passive villain snap raise pot OTR is damn strong, so i ended up folding.

Great fold if you folded, understandable curiosity call if you called. Looking at this away from the table this can be nothing but a 2 (unless he can't read PLO boards, in which case he could be doing this with the case king, thinking he has a boat). A really great reg could be thin-raising a QQ here (pretty razor thin, though), but except that, I don't see villain having less than quads even close to enough.

Also:
A 2 should absolutely positively not raise, seeing as he is IP. Raising quads OTT IP is beyond horrible.

Makes a lot of sense to me. Flop is lockdown. The hand villain is repping just made quads. It's hard to get two streets of value from anything else. We check turn to pot control and to widen villain's river calling range, and then we vbet river. I mean, just put villain on a range and see how much of it calls two streets vs how much of it beats us.

Weird weird people ITT. Where I play, people actually consider what hands will call them before they mash the bet button.

i agree with all you say eldodo42 if this was plo25+ - however this is a 75/20 at plo10, and most likely a fish. I have been called with tons of worse on a 22K2 board, and on that 4 river he could just as well have hit with his 44 and raise for value. Imho our goal at micros should be to get value from our good hands/monsters vs terrible players (this is also the reason why slowplaying is just bad), and not strive to minimize our losses when we occasionally run into quads.

just my 2c

so, yes vs any competent villain the only thing he reps here and that he could have is a 2, and in that case I agree we should check turn and fold river.

As as, I still think best line would be b/f turn, b/f river

and btw
I didnt mean he should raise as in best play would be to raise, but as in he WILL raise cause people are bad and they cant resist at least a minraise when they turn quads. All I say is, at micros, the least of your worries is to get called by worse hands, and I dont know how you want to get your stack in and get value from your quads if you dont raise or bet big on this turn. KK will never EVER fold, AA wont fold either, and I have been shoved on in this spot with QQ.

it's only me who is leading this flop? so many players ...
and if raised, i would go ahead

A fold for me, because:

even 75/20 doesnt bet flop into four with just 44xx, doesnt limp pre with AAxx after other two, these are all non 2xxx hands that pots into the river raise.

On YOUR side: Missing little value on the flop as 75/20 doesnt bet this flop without at least a pair or a deuce, missing big value on the turn from AA-JJxx.

If he pots into your raise on the turn, you can give it up as he doesnt limp AAxx there, and Kxxx doesnt reraise