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10-28-2008 , 11:10 AM

TheCparkKid

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sharks on your left...

PLO 5/10, is the game worth playing if you have the fish on your immediate right, but 3 very good 5/10 regulars on your left?!!

sidenote, the fish is up 2 buyins and the regulars have just bought it..

thoughts and comments guys thx

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10-28-2008 , 11:59 AM

TheRapisT

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poker is situation dependant

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10-28-2008 , 01:49 PM

Poolside

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what do you usually play is important since taking a shot at 5-10 then u have a 3k roll is just asking for trouble.

i wouldnt sit with fish since the other sharks will dominate you since they have position and the fish may not even play all that crazy. knowing fish's stats are also part of the rational.

how much gamble u have should also be considered.

u dont want to play scared $ too

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10-28-2008 , 05:19 PM

gordo16

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no.. odds are if you try to play as many pots as possible against a PLO fish who maybe opens too many hands etc, you are going to be very frequently 3bet by the better players to your left and stuck in awkward spots OOP in big pots

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10-29-2008 , 04:25 PM

theviralmind

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Gordo's advice applies to the other thread about taking a shot in a game with one huge fish and several solid regs. The regs are going to target you as well.

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10-29-2008 , 10:20 PM

wazz

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You can be +EV, significantly so in fact, providing the fish covers you, and you cover the good players by a lot.

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10-30-2008 , 01:41 AM

theviralmind

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Wazz is a sicko. Don't listen to him.

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10-30-2008 , 02:10 AM

jamiezig

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fish on the right = good.

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10-31-2008 , 02:21 PM

FTPdelaysuck

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Originally Posted by gordo16

I agree with this for the most part....

there are some fish that u just have to play -- regardless of position.

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10-31-2008 , 10:37 PM

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TheCparkKid

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thx guys, I ended up not playing b/c I didn't feel right in the game. I later played him 3 handed with a semi decent player and got him for 3 buyins.

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11-01-2008 , 06:40 AM

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iggymcfly

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Originally Posted by gordo16

Wow, really? I usually think of this as a hugely profitable situation when I have position on the one fish when there are a lot of other solid players at the table. Maybe this is why I'm stuck so much at 25/50 cap?

If going in order from the person you have direct position on to the person you're OOP on, which VPIPs would you rather have?

1. 80-25-30-25-20
2. 40-45-35-60-50

Obviously, VPIP's not everything, but assuming that they're typical players with those stats, which lineup would you rather face? I usually figure that #1's a pretty good game and #2's borderline unplayable, but I'd be interested in your perspective.

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11-01-2008 , 12:45 PM

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martre

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This scenario sounds good to me. I don't really think there are that many great 5/10 regulars anyway, so chances are those 3 aren't fantastic either. You don't have to isolate the fish with every hand you get. It should be easy enough to pick your spots.

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11-01-2008 , 10:51 PM

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jamiezig

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also, maybe it's my hold 'em background, but sometimes, this is just the best you can do. and if there's only one fish at the table, i want position on him.

my one adjustment: if the good players behind me are liberal 3 bettors, i'll limp behind with some hands i'd usually iso with that can't stand a 4bet but play okay if there are a few callers when it gets back to me. (JTT8r, KK42r or something).

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11-04-2008 , 08:11 PM

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gordo16

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly

the scenarios pretty dependent on how often they're raising.. I mean, if someone is playing 80/0 and the people behind him are playing 25/20 etc then its scenario 2 for sure..

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11-05-2008 , 10:28 PM

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iggymcfly

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How about 81/28/2.2? Assuming he plays pretty decent postflop for how sloppy he plays preflop and likes to min-raise PF quite a bit. You think I need another fish at the table for that to be a good game even if I have direct position on the 81/28? I assume you probably know who I'm talking about if you've put a decent number of hands in at the 25/50 cap game on FT.

Is it just because it's cap that this situation doesn't play that well? I assume that 100bb deep, you'd still want to have position on the guy who's always in the pot with good regs at the other spots over playing with mediocre players, right?

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