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PLO 50: Hero bluffing with aces. PLO 50: Hero bluffing with aces.

03-14-2010 , 11:08 AM
Villain is 23/11 over 200 hands. Fold to CB = 50 %. Fold to 3bet:0/3. 4-bet:0/3.
A month ago I would just check-fold flop, but I figured I could get him to fold a good part of his range with a second barrel, like straights, 2 pairs, maybe a set or a small flush.
I bet relatively small on the flop, because I want him to float with a good part of his range, and then I will be able to take it down on the turn.


Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BTN: $58.65
SB: $48.55
Hero (BB): $81.25
UTG: $48.60
CO: $96.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A J A 4
1 fold, CO raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25) 7 6 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.00, CO calls $7

Turn: ($25.25) Q (2 players)
[color=red]Hero bets $19.00 (?)
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03-14-2010 , 11:43 AM
I want him to float so I can 2nd barrel air sounds pretty unnecessary and spewy at this level.

I would be surprised if he folds a small flush here. You might get him off a straight and two pair.
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03-14-2010 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by blaafarris
I want him to float so I can 2nd barrel air sounds pretty unnecessary and spewy at this level.

I would be surprised if he folds a small flush here. You might get him off a straight and two pair.
Well the only alternative to making a second barrel is check-folding. And who cares what is neccesary or not, as long as its maximixe EV.
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03-14-2010 , 12:08 PM
you are right, necessary is not the correct word. If it is most +EV you should do it.

However, I have toned down the amount of bluffing i do at PLO50 lately, and I think I am winning more because of it. I used to 3barrel nut flush blocker versus unknown and be called by the straight, and think "wow, sucks for me that he plays this bad," but in fact I was playing bad for trying to bluff him.

If you have a read a villain and think he might fold often enough, go ahead. But if he is unknown don't be surprised if he stacks of we 76** putting you on AA**.
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03-14-2010 , 12:10 PM
so basically this is a bare ace bluff, without the bare ace?
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03-14-2010 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
so basically this is a bare ace bluff, without the bare ace?
No its not a bare ace bluff, its a bluff. Because he has a large range when he calls my flop cb, and will fold a decent amount of the time (hopefully around 50% or higher) of the time to my turn bet.
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03-14-2010 , 02:10 PM
most people don't fold flushes in 3bet pots, i highly advise against this second barrel
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03-14-2010 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by this_passing
most people don't fold flushes in 3bet pots, i highly advise against this second barrel
You cant advice against the second barrel. You have to advice against the CB.

There are only 2 options in this hand:
1) To check-fold flop. This is the best option if he is very rarely bluffing even when it is extreme obivious that I dont like the board( because I would have to check all the way to the river).

2) To make a second barrel. Because he folds rarely to CBs, so a CB and a check-fold on the turn is not profitable. If I were in his spot I would float with with almost any hand on this board and try to take it down on the turn. Maybe he wont think this way, but its def. possible that he put me on aces when I cb, but when I make the TB I will represent a flush, and likely a nut flush. So what I am trying to say is that his range is much wider than a flush. And i know that he likely wont fold like a 9 high flush but there is a chance he will. And this combined with him likely folding any non flush make this a profitable turn bet. But I agree its borderline between giving up on flop or making this second barrel. However CBetting and giving up is the worst option.
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