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07-20-2009 , 09:15 PM

donkey_king

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villian is 49/29 with an agg of 4 over only 35 hands. I 3bet him several times so he might have 4bet me out of frustration, not sure. No other reads cuz I was 8 tabling. Who likes a call on river?

PartyPoker, $1.00/2.00 Pot limit Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
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Board:
UTG: $286.60
CO: $593.95
Button: $467.45
UTG+1: $132.90
SB: $357.40
BB: $232.80

Dealt to Button Q

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), CO raises to $4, Button raises to $15, (2 folds), CO raises to $38, Button calls $27

Flop: ($87) 8

(3 Players)
CO bets $48, Button calls $48

Turn: ($183) 4

(3 Players)
CO checks, Button checks

River: ($183) A

(3 Players)
CO bets $183, (1 folds)

Results:
CO wins $183
CO wins $180

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07-20-2009 , 10:04 PM

sence25

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,676

why do we just call flops?
im new to omaha fwiw

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07-20-2009 , 10:06 PM

Dap Dippin

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,325

Please ship either flop or turn.

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07-20-2009 , 10:06 PM

BananaBalla

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,642

I think calling the flop is fine, but man you gotta bet that turn. You have the best hand almost always.

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07-20-2009 , 10:17 PM

secondnuts

adept

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,109

not me. i'd need a strong read. why aren't you betting the turn?

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07-20-2009 , 10:21 PM

donkey_king

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If I was playing less tables I would certainly be bluffraising this flop as well as raising with my sets. hate how I played this. sounds like you guys call river then?

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07-20-2009 , 10:26 PM

iggymcfly

runs good at HORSE

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26,044

Bet the turn FFS. Other streets are played fine.

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07-21-2009 , 02:45 AM

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,603

I´d ship flop. Just to p!ss him off a little more.

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07-21-2009 , 03:40 AM

Scary_Tiger

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 21,487

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly

Bet the turn FFS. Other streets are played fine.

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07-21-2009 , 03:41 AM

#10

Scary_Tiger

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 21,487

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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

I´d ship flop. Just to p!ss him off a little more.

Yeah, I definitely don't mind this versus described Villain.

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07-21-2009 , 04:16 AM

#11

Xr8ed

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,404

if you are planning on calling a turn bet anyways if lead into, just ship flop.

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07-21-2009 , 08:41 AM

#12

Spawnstar

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 401

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Originally Posted by BananaBalla

I think calling the flop is fine, but man you gotta bet that turn. You have the best hand almost always.

Why is calling the flop better than raising? With such a board raising will put a ton of pressure on Villain and even if he has 9Txx or at worst 789T you still have about 34-40% equity on the flop.

Is the reasoning that we are concerned he will only shove the nuts on the flop and fold everything else? If so I would think we are still +EV based on the number of hands he will have to fold in this spot.

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07-21-2009 , 10:23 AM

#13

LOL LDO

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,058

Calling flop is fine against oppo described, especially if frustrated as he might be more likely to just barrell off if he picks up any kind of equity. But on the other hand, imo when frustrated they will just get it in on the flop real light and you don't have to worry about turn cards that might kill your action.

LOL at people who think OP is calling flop as he is worried about being beat.

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07-21-2009 , 12:59 PM

#14

Nohage

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42

Don't see how this is a fold on the river as played. Villain will have the straight like never so you're folding because he has top set and only top set.

The A is a great card for him to bluff after 3betting preflop. Besides, can't he VB worse hands like this since you have under represented your hand?

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07-21-2009 , 01:03 PM

#15

2+2=5

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,540

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Originally Posted by Nohage

after 4bet reflop actually

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