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PL25: decent turned 2p facing strong 2barrel PL25: decent turned 2p facing strong 2barrel

08-17-2015 , 12:34 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $26.52 (106.1 bb)
    Hero (BB): $62.50 (250 bb)
    UTG: $130.03 (520.1 bb)
    MP: $138.01 (552 bb)
    CO: $62.50 (250 bb)
    BTN: $31.64 (126.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K K 8 5
    2 folds, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.40) 2 Q T (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $3.26, Hero calls $3.26, CO folds

    Turn: ($9.92) 2 (2 players) (eff. stack ~$27)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $9.50, Hero ?


    villain unknown, looks like a weaker player over a tiny sample

    Looks quite scary when he pots two streets without any further info. I'd interpret this as being quite strong whereas I probably still do ok vs his QQ, TT, AA, QT and strong combodraws. So is it ok to just ship it in here and not be particularly happy about it? Can I still call this and fold rivers unimproved assuming he doesn't triple very thinly for value or as bluff? Might this even be an exploitative fold?
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    08-17-2015 , 02:09 PM
    raising pre

    turn there is no much opportunity for your range to come out ahead, which you can take advantage of on another level by bluff catching. But in vacuum its just a coin flip.

    Tendency seems to be that his turn sizing is too high and it suggests your hand is good....

    I guess you can raise small /fold the turn but people don't take this line with QQ TT and he can rebluff with blockers. (the 10$ spare is worth saving because surely he is not shoving without a boat there...)

    check calling river again is interesting but you are OOP and the board is paired so it's a sick levelling game to be honest. He can check behind river because wtf are you folding?
    Don't ****ing know
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    08-19-2015 , 05:22 AM
    Why would you 3bet marginal KK here? I'll most often flop a very predictable overpair OOP in a 3way 3bet pot and it just seems very tough to play this profitably often enough.

    Also why do you think a turn bet means that I'm ahead? Sure, he can once in a while do this with a draw or some other random cards but most of the time I think weaker players just have it when they start potting out. My hand is probably still too strong to get away from but I'd look to make pretty big folds when facing lines like this.
    I also don't see how I can raise/fold the turn given stacksizes.
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    08-19-2015 , 05:52 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
    I guess you can raise small /fold the turn but people don't take this line with QQ TT and he can rebluff with blockers.
    This has got to be the most ridiculous comment I've read in a while. Totally made my day, thnx

    As for the hand, I'm pretty sure you have to sighcall again.
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    08-19-2015 , 05:58 AM
    Personally I play 3b single suited KK** from Blinds vs CO/BTN vs they wide range. Call I will play with rainbow KK**. Also I like to have initiative postflop. I want that coz when I hit I hit hard.

    As played ez x/c for me on flop. He can bet like that with QT**, he can bet like that also some rundowns with pair. There is still many hands which we beat. Playing x/f coz he bet almost psb is to nitty IMO - or I got some reads about his sizing/bareling tendencies
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    08-19-2015 , 10:23 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by apo5tol
    This has got to be the most ridiculous comment I've read in a while. Totally made my day, thnx

    As for the hand, I'm pretty sure you have to sighcall again.
    When I am watching my self play with the outer body experience kind of thing your ego gets from time to time I am consistently totally flabbergasted at wtf I am doing and my arrogance wants people to watch me just to see how ****ing mind blowingly good I am doing **** that makes no sense at all.

    I deffo pull that line off against (braindead) players who have never seen me bluff with my whole range although at higher stakes its not worth trying as when I ahve tried this kind of bluff they always seem to have it but in micro stakes these high and unnecessary sizings (to stack off river) will fold to a bet, and there is of course protection value and they (certain players I have marked for this purpose - i.e the ones that don't exploit your range on river and will be 'straight up' checking their 3rd barrel with whiffed draw vs calling range) aren't re shoving without having you down to 2 outs - so the 10$ is pivotal.
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