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08-26-2014 , 05:16 AM

*Italian_Donk*

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 102

BTN is a reg 42/33/21 on 782 hands
18% raisecbetIP - 16% call from BTN - 23,7% 3bet from BTN - aggfact on the streets 1,8/1,9/3,7

SB is a fish 65/30/8,4

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30002631

MP: $109.09 (109.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $121.32 (121.3 bb)
BTN: $152.86 (152.9 bb)
SB: $110.61 (110.6 bb)
BB: $93.91 (93.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

MP folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($11.50) T

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.70, BTN raises to $29.61, SB folds, Hero??

flop line?

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08-26-2014 , 05:29 AM

naggeri

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 957

Lets start with a check flop...
Now i hate folding and hate gii .. so i would gii to increase variance..

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08-26-2014 , 05:36 AM

pistol232

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 30

threeway I like checkcalling flop so that we gain some relative position and can get some info from sb. Also we get to realise our equity without putting stacks in otf.

As played anything but calling is fine I think. You could fold since we might get freerolled but I would probably just stick it in and hate myself for betting the flop.

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08-26-2014 , 06:05 AM

apo5tol

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,238

im calling

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08-26-2014 , 06:22 AM

pastoral

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 856

defo calling, donking our hits on turn, c/c low spades on turn, donking river if he checks back a board pairing or heart turn

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08-26-2014 , 07:29 AM

Grethe

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,311

Call and play poker on turn

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08-26-2014 , 08:16 AM

naggeri

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 957

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Originally Posted by Grethe

Call and play poker on turn

hmm...~1 PSB left.. hit gii, blank gii, flush or paired board c/f ?
Usually Iam calling too but I am not sure thats the best play here.
I prefer c/c flop or use smaller sizeing on flop, around 7,35.
Thoughts?

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08-26-2014 , 08:17 AM

naggeri

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 957

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Originally Posted by pastoral

donking our hits on turn, c/c low spades on turn, donking river if he checks back a board pairing or heart turn

very optimistc/spew imo.

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08-26-2014 , 10:55 AM

mutilation

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 66

For people who say call, can you please explain why? Honest question here.

Is it because the top of his range crushes us? (Set+FD, OESD+FD). Why would we get it in when the bottom of his raise range is only flipping vs us?

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08-26-2014 , 01:00 PM

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NMcNasty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,990

No way in hell I'm checking this flop. Way too much equity to start worrying about raises.

I'd probably just call the pot-raise and play some poker. If you really feel you have some fold equity you can shove, but on average I don't think you have much for this sort of spot.

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08-27-2014 , 07:17 AM

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Grethe

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,311

No FE in shoving and we wanna keep his entire range in. Not folding many turns, but some...

And I'd prefer betting flop

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08-27-2014 , 09:13 AM

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guimz

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,285

i don't mind the cbet.
flat now. decide turn

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08-27-2014 , 10:42 AM

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WittyName26

adept

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 940

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Originally Posted by guimz

i don't mind the cbet.
flat now. decide turn

+1

really don't understand those who say we should be checking this flop, seems like we hit this flop fairly well and a c-bet is in order. I guess you could say "check flop to pot control b/c we are deeper with aggressive villain and OOP," but it seems fairly nitty. I like bet/calling flop here and deciding turn. The top of his range has us crushed if we get it in on the flop, so lets peel one and see what variance has in store for us.

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