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12-31-2012 , 08:29 PM
He's 33/8 3.2 AF

Bad call ?
I keep leveling myself thinking ppl just call nuts ip to bluff me off chops or missed draws but they dont really they play straight forward 90% of the time. Guess i kinda answered my own question



    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10, $0.02 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
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    Hero (BB): $36.52 (365.2 bb)
    BTN: $25.34 (253.4 bb)
    SB: $9.57 (95.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J 6 A 8
    BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.31) 9 6 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

    Turn: ($1.11) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.06, Hero raises to $4.24, BTN calls $3.18

    River: ($9.59) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $9.16, Hero calls $9.16

    Spoiler:
    Results: $27.91 pot ($1 rake)
    Final Board: 9 6 7 T T
    Hero mucked J 6 A 8 and lost (-$13.92 net)
    BTN showed 4 8 7 7 and won $26.91 ($12.99 net)



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    He's 47/11/4 3.2 AF
    Cant think of any hand he's valuebetting that beats me expect for maybe KK since he probly 4b aces pre, he might have a deuce..





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      BTN: $50.34 (503.4 bb)
      SB: $23.58 (235.8 bb)
      BB: $16.97 (169.7 bb)
      MP: $19.72 (197.2 bb)
      Hero (CO): $25.13 (251.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J T A Q
      MP raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $1, BTN calls $1, 2 folds, MP calls $0.75

      Flop: ($3.25) 2 5 Q (3 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $2.20, BTN calls $2.20, MP folds

      Turn: ($7.65) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.10, BTN calls $6.10

      River: ($19.85) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $13.80, Hero calls $13.80

      Spoiler:
      Results: $47.45 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: 2 5 Q 7 2
      BTN showed A A T 9 and won $45.95 ($22.83 net)
      Hero mucked J T A Q and lost (-$23.12 net)



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      Villain is 72/17/0 0.6 AF over only 100 hands.

      WTF on river. Should probly fold since he's so passive ? and bet turn bigger





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        CO: $26.50 (265 bb)
        BTN: $36.62 (366.2 bb)
        SB: $10 (100 bb)
        BB: $25 (250 bb)
        UTG: $30.41 (304.1 bb)
        Hero (MP): $20.29 (202.9 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 8 T T
        UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.57, CO folds, BTN calls $0.57, SB folds, BB calls $0.47, UTG calls $0.47

        Flop: ($2.45) Q 8 K (4 players)
        BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $2

        Turn: ($6.45) 6 (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero bets $4.30, UTG calls $4.30

        River: ($15.05) 5 (2 players)
        UTG bets $14.37, Hero calls $13.40 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $41.85 pot ($1.50 rake)
        Final Board: Q 8 K 6 5
        UTG showed T 9 K 7 and won $40.35 ($20.06 net)
        Hero mucked 8 8 T T and lost (-$20.29 net)



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        12-31-2012 , 09:36 PM
        1) why just call his flop raise? 3b/4b, you have the (virtual) nuts and want to build a big pot. River bet small/fold or check-fold
        2) why bet turn so big with just 1 pair no draw? I dont think you get anything to fold on a 7... fold river, you beat nothing
        3) this turn barrel seems fine, oversets would have raised flop, so he most likely has a draw JTx or fd. river.. only 97 got there, however: "Villain is 72/17/0 0.6 AF over only 100 hands." - just so unlikely to bluff-shove. More likely to show up with a passively played KK/QQ
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        12-31-2012 , 09:38 PM
        Last one is a snap I think. His river agg is more relevant than his overall, and hard to tell from small sample, but I think people spazz enough.
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        12-31-2012 , 10:31 PM
        Hand 1- I think the board texture is key here. A boat with Txxx (hands like 89Tx) makes a big part of villains range. A lot of those rundown hands will play pre/flop/turn like villain did and backdoor a boat on this board. I make a 1/2 pot value/blocking bet on river. You will get called by some worse hands at plo 10. If you get raised your toast.

        Hand 2- bet smaller on or check turn/fold river

        Hand 3- I think the key here is villains aggression or lack of 0 3 bet and 0.6 AF. I would fold everything but the nuts here. There is no bluff to catch.

        Last edited by powder_8s; 12-31-2012 at 10:37 PM.
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        01-01-2013 , 08:45 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by powder_8s
        Hand 1- I think the board texture is key here. A boat with Txxx (hands like 89Tx) makes a big part of villains range. A lot of those rundown hands will play pre/flop/turn like villain did and backdoor a boat on this board. I make a 1/2 pot value/blocking bet on river. You will get called by some worse hands at plo 10. If you get raised your toast.

        Hand 2- bet smaller on or check turn/fold river

        Hand 3- I think the key here is villains aggression or lack of 0 3 bet and 0.6 AF. I would fold everything but the nuts here. There is no bluff to catch.
        +1
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        01-01-2013 , 08:57 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by bela192
        1) why just call his flop raise? 3b/4b, you have the (virtual) nuts and want to build a big pot. River bet small/fold or check-fold
        HE doesn't have the virtual nuts he has pair+nut Gutshot+NFD. Flat the 3 bet. The turn gives a lot of his hands (made straights) the additional outs for a boat. See powder_8s as think is optimum line.

        2. Whats your 3-bet like this session or vs villain? Has he history of seeing you showdown mid/low run downs after a 3bet? I think a thing I see a lot of and which I am personally trying to change is only c-beting on boards that match my range. If you have no 3-betting history of mid/low rundowns then this is an easy call for villain as Q5,Q2, 55,22 are not part of your 3bet range and QQ is only a small part so he can potentially bet you off on another low card as he can represent low 2 pairs, pairs plus wraps etc etc...
        Check turn and c/f river

        3. Yeah dont mind it think you have the best of it most of the time
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