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Pair/NFD/Overs facing C/R on wrap heavy board.

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03-26-2008 , 11:17 PM

MYSPACETOM

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I think villain's range here is heavily weighted towards wraps or two pair, both of which I'm a favorite against.

Anyone play this differently?

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BB: $215.90
CO: $177.00
Hero (BTN): $199.25
SB: $197.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 4

1 fold, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($21.00) 4

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises to $62, BB calls $62, Hero raises to $192.25 all in

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03-26-2008 , 11:47 PM

bdc30

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Seems very standard to me. Especially with BB tagging along.

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03-26-2008 , 11:50 PM

Eihli

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If you think they are on a wrap/flush draw, why not just call. If the board pairs and they check, you can pick it up. If the board pairs and they go all-in, you can fold. If it's a blank, you are either ahead, or you are getting odds to draw.

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03-26-2008 , 11:58 PM

MYSPACETOM

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Too many cards he can bluff here and since there are two possible wraps, I have no way to tell which he's on.

I'm sure if the board pairs he's going to be firing away and then I have to make a -ev fold.

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03-27-2008 , 12:25 AM

Eihli

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I don't think any wrap fires when you call the flop here and the turn pairs. Your hand looks a lot like a set when you just call the flop.

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03-27-2008 , 12:34 AM

MYSPACETOM

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You are incorrectly trying to apply the 'peel one off' concept attributed to wraps to this situation.

Pushing simplifies the hand, while calling really seems like fancy play syndrome.
I just don't have enough information about villain's hand giving him the opportunity to outplay me on subsequent streets. It also allows him to c/f certain turns, such as a flush turn.

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03-27-2008 , 12:44 AM

Eihli

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Outplay you? First off you keep acting like you have only 1 villain in this hand. The fact that it's 3way makes it less likely that anyone would make a play. Second off, if anyone makes a play, it's going to be you since you have position.

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03-27-2008 , 01:21 AM

TheThinMan

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Pushing is ok. Heads up I would often flat and never fold, shove or call if board pairs because I wouldn't want to outthink myself.

Villai ncould have a set, wrap heavy or not.

With BB in there push is good $$

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