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12-29-2011 , 10:05 AM
where to?
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12-29-2011 , 10:28 AM
Lol but they also removed the 4,5% rake decline. This must make things worse for midstakes...
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12-29-2011 , 11:05 AM
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where to?
I am not mass multi tabling. So for me there are plenty alternatives to chose from.
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12-29-2011 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hotcocacola
that guy with AAxx had 3b@ 1.2, so def he has aces there
Try to play 24 tables on a ****ty laptop with no stats. I'm sorry if I'm not good enough to put someone on AA in SB/button fight. But u are right call turn is pro'lly way better
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12-29-2011 , 11:41 AM
me this entire year ^^
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12-29-2011 , 12:47 PM
i havent read the sit-out thread but if those ppl that dont care wants to start tables, will these sit-out ppl join and ruin the game for all of us?
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12-29-2011 , 01:06 PM
does machado28 post here at all ? id love to see a graph from him.
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12-31-2011 , 01:01 AM
for those interested in seeing their difference in dealt vs contributed rake: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1461
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12-31-2011 , 06:21 PM
They are also considering having people fly to the Isle of Man to discuss the changes, and we don't have anyone from the PLO community afaik. I volunteered, so if people approve, let it be known in the thread in the Internet Poker Forum.
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12-31-2011 , 07:14 PM
Yes, please raise your voice for choosing krmont22 as a representative of the PLO community in the following threads:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...9/index30.html

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...2/index34.html

It is very important we're not left behind. PLO is a rake heavy game and we need better conditions.
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01-01-2012 , 02:35 PM
+1 to krmont!

about new vpp rate, i played small session at 2/4-3/6 and after 611hands i received 749vpp running 28/23.

seems very close to the ''old rate'', no?

others have bigger sample size to confirm that seems the change seems very small ?
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01-01-2012 , 02:47 PM
getting more vpp/hand so far then hem says at 2/4-5/10 but im also not 24 tabling and playing 17/14 so im thinking players with your type of stats wont be affected too much
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01-01-2012 , 02:59 PM
lol you are playing poker today??

thats funny
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01-01-2012 , 03:08 PM
Games are better than usual today, give it some days for more accurate numbers.
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01-01-2012 , 03:21 PM
ya joe, blow my mind when i saw you today at tables. wtf ?
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01-01-2012 , 04:37 PM
i ran that program and lose like 20% vpp's playing 20/16
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01-01-2012 , 04:59 PM
you guys have to get a bit looser :P I mean 17/13 that's no fun
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01-01-2012 , 08:34 PM
This thread should be used for deciding upon who should represent 2p2 in discussion with Stars. The sooner this happens, the more likely we can actually do something. PLEASE take the time to do this.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post30690801
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01-02-2012 , 02:46 AM
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ya joe, blow my mind when i saw you today at tables. wtf ?
haha

ended yesterday on best day ever at the tables, had to ride the run good out, confirmed still running good today
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01-02-2012 , 05:14 AM
Hmm, so far over my first 5k hands i have 11% less VPP's compared to the average of last month and have been playing relatively high stakes. I always considered myself one of the more loose regs. Anyone profiting from the rake change?
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01-02-2012 , 09:57 AM
I played a pretty nitty session just now and was running 22.5/16.8 and earned 0.78 vpps per hand. In the old system I would have made 1.03 vpps per hand - or a 26% decrease.

So I guess a nitty style will see a bigger difference than a looser style.
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01-02-2012 , 09:59 AM
What this also means is that people like JoeIngram1 etc was earning very high rakeback before. They were not contributing that much rake but was getting 63% rakeback on what the average player was raking.

In a example a 16 tabler of FR nl says he got 60-65% vpps of what he got before. This means he was probably earning around 100% rakeback with the old system, pretty profitable to mass multi table. Thats why so many players have been multitabling, because they can breakeven in the game and earn really juicy rakeback.
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01-02-2012 , 12:00 PM
In my first 6k hands I'm getting more VPPs than before, I should probably say "same" as it's not very much.

I haven't table selected at all and have been playing in some quite tough tables so playing 30/22 I was the loose cannon on these tables lol... :/


I guess If I table selected a minimum I'd be getting a bit less.
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01-02-2012 , 03:13 PM
my 1st 4k hands playing 26/21 at 2/4-3/6 i received 1.34vpp. last year i received 1.32 at 3/6 and 1.15 at 2/4.

playing standard style...for those lags 33vpip this change will be great.
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01-02-2012 , 03:36 PM
havent payed much attention to the change but this system has to be fairer?

is there something that is even fairer? or do we just want the $ stars profit from the change to be redistributed?
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