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06-26-2012 , 09:00 PM
These hands are mostly PLO25, with some PLO10 and shots at PLO50 (where I run terribly, hence $ being below EV while bb/100 is above EV).

So I guess an obvious leak is being way too loose from the BB. Anything else obvious? I'm not sure why my W$atSD is so much higher on the BTN than any other position. Maybe I'm not value betting enough from other positions?

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06-26-2012 , 10:10 PM
Those stats should have been



The first ones included some holdem hands... :/
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06-27-2012 , 02:02 PM
I'm at about 10k hands in PLO2 six-max, mostly zoom. Getting some clues, but I would like to ask: which of these stats are the most messed up? Thanks!

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06-27-2012 , 02:58 PM
Sry, timed out, had some technical problems, here are some more stats, positional ones. How do they look? Thanks!


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06-28-2012 , 02:14 PM
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Sry, timed out, had some technical problems, here are some more stats, positional ones. How do they look? Thanks!

I'm completely new to omaha too but 19VPIP on BTN? You probably have to play way looser from LP as to blind VPIP will see what some pros have to say.
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06-28-2012 , 03:00 PM
Plaaynde some suggestions :

You're VPIP and PFR seem the same accross all positions. You should have wider opening stats in later position. Your UTG open is probably a little too high and i think every hand played UTG should be open raised unless very specific dynamic exists. You need need wider CO opening range (way too big a gap between CO VPIP AND PRF), and you need to triple your button PFR. Basically, raise alot more in LP, and stop calling (or limping) as much.

You need to be folding BB way more, you're likely playing OOP far too much. Be tigher in the blinds.

Your WWSF is also way too low accross the board.
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06-30-2012 , 05:54 PM
Lately I've been trying to get my stats to around 24/17 with 3bet of 5. I think I'm playing too much from the blinds, but my biggest leak is probably post flop...
Hands are with 3-6 players only. 9 tabling.

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06-30-2012 , 10:51 PM
^Less tables and open up your game a bit. Play more from position. 3bet of 3,3% is quite sad, no offence. They run over you otherwise. Cbet stats/fold to cbet would be useful. Gl.
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07-02-2012 , 07:26 AM
You could open veeery wide from the button. 22.6 is to tight. And as slimy said play less tables you should focus on reads and to develop your thinking patterns and guess their ranges and you have no chance of doing that when 9 tabling.
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07-04-2012 , 03:43 PM



^^ Stats are for 0.05/0.10 PLO on Stars. 6MAX. 7-13 tabling

Ive been playing really tight as getting used to transition from to cash PLO, im a 3-4bb winner at 0.05/0.10 holdem 6max. been playing roughly 1month plo, reading articles and wathcing DC vids for improvement to game.

Typyical hands are KKXX(decent ish side cards) , all AAxx. Good run downs and suited A' hands with middling cards.

Questions;

1. what typical % hands should i be opening on butt.
2. 3BET is very low. main reason is low stakes fish spaz a lot. what is a good 3bet range in low stakes?
3. Is my CBET stats ok.? im focusing on betting good hands/draws and stealing a lot of dry flops with little conetivity.
4. should i play agg vs butt steals aka 3bet or not so much as pos it a BIG issue in PLO opoosed to holdem.
5. In multiway pots should you ever draw to K high flushes. ive been mucking those draws vs lots of action.

And lastly does anyone know of a good link/program to an omaha odds calculator so i can compare flops with hand ranges. something like pokerstove for holdem.


Help greatly appreciated, SBE

Last edited by Polypuk; 07-04-2012 at 04:11 PM.
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07-04-2012 , 05:27 PM
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^^ Stats are for 0.05/0.10 PLO on Stars. 6MAX. 7-13 tabling

Ive been playing really tight as getting used to transition from to cash PLO, im a 3-4bb winner at 0.05/0.10 holdem 6max. been playing roughly 1month plo, reading articles and wathcing DC vids for improvement to game.

Typyical hands are KKXX(decent ish side cards) , all AAxx. Good run downs and suited A' hands with middling cards.

Questions;

1. what typical % hands should i be opening on butt.
2. 3BET is very low. main reason is low stakes fish spaz a lot. what is a good 3bet range in low stakes?
3. Is my CBET stats ok.? im focusing on betting good hands/draws and stealing a lot of dry flops with little conetivity.
4. should i play agg vs butt steals aka 3bet or not so much as pos it a BIG issue in PLO opoosed to holdem.
5. In multiway pots should you ever draw to K high flushes. ive been mucking those draws vs lots of action.

And lastly does anyone know of a good link/program to an omaha odds calculator so i can compare flops with hand ranges. something like pokerstove for holdem.


Help greatly appreciated, SBE
Propokertools.com online hand calculator for omaha. There is some other interesting stuff for omaha you can find.
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07-06-2012 , 08:40 AM
Does anyone have a good idea of what a reasonable fold to cb should be like? I just checked my f/cb for the day and found myself at 39%, 47% overall).... This seems a tad low but I'm not really sure what a reasonable fold to cbet looks like in PLO.
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07-07-2012 , 11:30 AM
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Propokertools.com online hand calculator for omaha. There is some other interesting stuff for omaha you can find.
^^ This program is perfect , Thanks.
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07-07-2012 , 11:38 AM
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Does anyone have a good idea of what a reasonable fold to cb should be like? I just checked my f/cb for the day and found myself at 39%, 47% overall).... This seems a tad low but I'm not really sure what a reasonable fold to cbet looks like in PLO.

^^ Think the context is important ^^

Big factors to think when playing are:

1. OOP
2. Many players left to act (2+).
3. Board texture
4. Player image.
5. Multiltabling amount i.e are you playing a few tables with good reads or solid ABC on 9-10+ etc.


My stats are roughly 50-65% depending on being IP or OOP. However it depends on your playstyle i.e agg before flop or playing lots of pots for min bet.

At 0.05/0.10 its very loose and no one really folds so i tend to cbet less vs more players.

I play many tables thus i porbably miss a lot of reads where i should not fold. Hope this rambling helps a lil bit. Maybe post some more stats ^^ overall to look at.
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07-09-2012 , 10:49 AM
Hey guys. I know there are only 12k hands here but are there any obvious leaks you can spot? I'm very new to PLO and have been studying like a mofo so any help would be appreciated

Bombus



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07-12-2012 , 04:55 AM
bompter cant see any obv leaks from those stats, looks like your running pretty bad at mo. ev bb is v solid. Just keep working on hand reads and studying up.
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07-13-2012 , 03:17 PM
I've just experienced a twice historic moment: I've played my first 10K importable hands (preceded by 20-30K unimportable ones), and my current siteroll (which was initially 17 BI) got burnt by variance. So while I'm trying to find a smart way to reload drawing minimal governmental attention, it's high and anticipated time for my stats to be reviewed. (By a strange coincidence, that's my 600th post.)

However, I realised that out of these 10,3K hands 1,2K were HU (including start of tables), so I finally decided to filter out them, shortstacking experiments (<49 bb) and a tiny sample of UTG hands (the games were mainly 5-max) to arrive at 9K hands (as there are tables in 3 currencies, the stakes are spread quite continuously between $0.30 and £0.50, formally there are 5.8K hands at PLO30 and 2.8K ones at PLO50). I hope that will be enough.

So you finally have a chance to see what a >-'-)> **** is but I still hope you've been taking my advice with a grain of salt anyway and won't start regarding me as a fake personality like that:



No, I don't think my stats are that fishy - maybe they don't reflect my bad performance well.

First, here's the brutal graph with an awful red line and a -14bb/100 winrate which means being breakeven post-RB (I hope to perform better in rake races in the 2nd half of July), but the only liquid (daily) part of my RB is the 20% FDB, so I blame the network administration a lot (how on earth are they using the money they're owing me? ).



Now here are the stats. I think the BTN 3bet deviates, partially it's explained by misclicks (ticking 'bet pot' with a decent hand before CO's action to move on to another table), partially by isolating weak players. The huge winnings in 3bet pots mislead me due to high positive variance, they're breakeven EV-adjusted, maybe I should work on this stat.

The SB VPIP is bigger than the BB one because of frequent limped pots (20% of all hands) and BvB spots. I still have to be tighter out of SB imho.



(I was too lazy to create a custom report, so if you want to analyse non-standard things like donkbet%, which is quite low and solid btw, feel free to ask me.)



I'm also not sure of my aggression falling from the flop to the river. I feel my river call efficiency is too low. Although LeakTracker tells me to decrease fold% on all streets, I don't believe it as these are the micros where people way too seldom bluff otr. After trying LeakTracker out, I made some more horrible river calls.



BBV4Life: to make things worse, my play and health have been coming undone (because of chasing high volume and therefore scanty sleep) along with my laptop (the headphone jack started dying today to go with the battery) and FPDB (I've thoughtlessly overwritten the only working version of Sorrow's development tree without backing it up). Well, at least I'm having a weekend of rest now.

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07-14-2012 , 11:43 PM
Hi, just posting my stats here to see what mistakes need to be fixed; Not sure exactly what to post and first time using poker traker, what else needs to be added? Thank you for any advice.




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07-15-2012 , 12:10 AM
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Hi, just posting my stats here to see what mistakes need to be fixed; Not sure exactly what to post and first time using poker traker, what else needs to be added? Thank you for any advice.




Add went2showdown by position. Also f2cbet on flop and turn. You aren't playing too many hands from the blinds, so your range is strong. Maybe you're folding too much postflop when your equity is good enough to continue.
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07-15-2012 , 12:32 AM
Thanks. Is this correct?



I guess they do look a tad on the high side. I really don't want to fall into the tight passive fish player type.
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07-15-2012 , 12:35 AM
nini,

those are pretty good positional stats for vpip/pfr, excellent job of playing tight from blinds. can you add 3b %
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07-15-2012 , 12:46 AM
Thanks again. I have been trying to concentrate on not playing oop too much while trying to make up for it on the co and button.

Here is 3bet and 3bet fold, i think.



3 bet fold looking high. Is that very weak passive?
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07-15-2012 , 01:00 AM
If you are talking about 3 betting and folding to a 4b, it really depends on stack sizes and your hand imo. At your stakes, it's going to be very polarized to a AAxx which is easy to play against postflop..you just need to be deep enough to justify the gamble.
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07-15-2012 , 08:58 AM
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Thanks. Is this correct?



I guess they do look a tad on the high side. I really don't want to fall into the tight passive fish player type.
niniw, Sorry I missed your WTSD stats before. Both W$SD and WTSD suggest you are laying down hands that you should continue with. Don't change it too much, but a little. Overall I think your stats look pretty good.
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07-15-2012 , 09:11 AM
I'm sorry, I'm a PT4 n00b so I failed to make a custom report when posting my stats ^^^, now I'll correct this shortcoming. Here are my advanced flop stats, turn and river stats will follow soon.
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Attention w***e detected!


Note that, due to a bug in PT4 beta, in this report 6-max UTG (where I played 39 hands as the tables were mostly 5-max) is called MP and actual MP (HJ) is called UTG.

I'm not satisfied by my low donk% and high flop fold%. Are you spotting anything else out of line?
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