Got a disconnect yesterday, was registered for a 500euro HUSNG. A guy joined while I was disconnected (apparently getting disconnected doesnt unregister you; wtf) and by the time I got reconnected I had been blinded off ~5/6th of my chips.

does any of the plo husngs get traffic on ipoker?

not really

Sigh, that's the reason why I limit the number of SnGs where I'm registered at once, in particular, to only one of each buy-in / type (in the 6-max case - to those which have the most players registered, as they're most likely to start the soonest).

Has anyone got the ahk script that hides the cashier in ipoker lobby? Thanks in advance

There's such an option in Tiltbreaker; I don't have it, but cba to write a script anyway (I play on really short siterolls, with almost all money being in play, because the Russian/Belarussian income tax is theoretically charged from all cashouts with no deposits deducted, so I need to know how many more tables I can afford ).

Hey guys. Someone offered me a deal for 24h poker. Website is: https://www.24hpoker.com/,

I downloaded the software and it seems fine, most of the ipoker softwares tilts me, but I can use this one, it is not that bad IMO.

Anyway, do you guys know 24h poker? I think it is microgaming. There are some tables running. But is it safe? I'm afraid of for some reason not being able to cashout or something like that.

It's on Microgaming now, a solid site. Search for its name in this thread, it was on Entraction until its closure and many of forum regs were playing there. Don't confuse it with the former Microgaming skin 24Poker (without the 'h'), whose license was revoked in 2011.

Don't forget to send the ID in within 3 days of signing up - Microgaming temporarily blocks accounts that don't do it.

Thank you coon74.

Anyone can figure out the indifferent point where the effective rake paid is the same for both sites. Assuming 3xSupernova~= 40%, what is the equivalent RB% for iPoker? I think it should be greater than 40 because rake cap is 2.8USD (vs 3.0EURO) and rake is 4.55% (vs 5%).

I have no Stars sample, but I have 237558 hands at PLO EURO100, raked EURO30427.78, 12.8bb/100.
I am playing 30/20/8.

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

It's 46%.

Calculation: Stars SN net rake 4.5%*0.6=2.7% => 1-(2.7%/5%)=1-0.54=0.46=46%. (I.e. (100%-54%)*5% = (100%-40%)*4.5) = 2.7%.)

The style doesn't really matter for PLO50 and under because rake caps are hit seldom.

Due to the source-based model coming in 2015, cashback % for winning (pre-reward) players on iPoker is going to be cut by half (except MTTs), i.e. fall under 40% (or to ~45% for 3x+ SN equivalent grinders), so profitability will depend on whether the field will be softer than at Stars after the changes.

^^ yukky news, and I was just starting to enjoy Betfairs RB

Where does it say that it will be cut by half? All the articles from pokerstrategy, pokertube etc have suggested that players's RB % won't be affected too much unless the skins decide to make drastic changes

Thanks coon74, much appreciated.

So far we know that SBR will only affect the rake redistribution between the skins, not the way rake and VIP points will be calculated whether you are a winner or a loser. The rewards offered by each skin will likely to be different. I expect the most known skins will be still offering reasonable good deals. How long before Amaya raises the rake for 6max?(Can't see why they're keeping at 4.5% rather than the standard 5% from a business point of view).

No skin can offer the deals of the same lucrativeness to regs. The amount of gross rake the skin is awarded by the network is going to be half of its players' usual rake plus the source-based rake (basically, slightly less than half of the aggregate net loss of the losers). Winning (pre-reward) regs will contribute only to the first component, i.e. half of their usual rake, so there's little sense for a skin to pay them more than half of what it paid previously.

Edit: OK, actually, a big skin can offer a bit more than half just because some part of its reg's virtual balance consists of funds of players of the same skin, and so the reg converts them for the skin, but this factor is going to be minor, e.g. if William Hill provides 1/5 of iPoker's player base (I don't know the real numbers), then 1/5 of funds of WH's winning regs will be funds of other WH players, and if WH decides to thank regs by indirectly giving them half of the SBR of WH's other players, then the maximum VIP program return may fall to 50%*(1/2+1/5*1/2)=27.5% instead of 50%/2=25%, but that's it.

Skin-exclusive private tables (where regs' play will certainly be rewarded better as all the funds entering their VBs will be of the same skin's players) will most likely reappear, but the network has always been limiting their number harshly (otherwise it makes little sense to be a network at all).

speaking to my affiliate just now and he estimates a 20% drop in money returned, our actual RB % remains the same its just 50% of the rake is now attributed to the sites 'sourced based rake', so we wont be raking back on that.

basically be SN instead of SNE, but with higher rake

Are you maybe thinking 20 percentage points then and not a 20% drop? Because what you described sounds quite high.

20% drop with 50% base:

50% -> 40%

20 percentage point drop with 50% base:

50% -> 30%

So if you're on 60% rb and if you can expect 20% drop in money returned then your new rb will be effectively 0.8 * 60% equals 48%?

20% drop is far better than expected but i don't see how that can be the case when 50% of the rake is attributed to sbr?

he was saying instead of 80% total (inc RB, race, promo), should be about 60%, basically there not sure how it will affect it until it happens - but this was his estimate

The reason why his total return will fall by less than half is that he (probably) has a lot of players who lose pre-RB (SnG players are more likely to fall into this category because rake there is too high). But it would be smart for him to give more money to those losing players; it's -EV for him to give you more than 50% weighted contributed (i.e. he'd be doing better without you in that case).

You can set it up as a % of whatever the skin reports to him as your rake. But that's if you trust that number. I'd set it up as a % of rake (half of what was previously) + the same (or slightly smaller) % of the net pre-reward loss for the month, so that I could verify it with tracking software. Or at least I'd call bs if, for a few months in a row, the reported total rake number was significantly less than half the rake + half the loss. (That's assuming that I start with a fresh skin or continue with a skin where I'm down lifetime.)

Tony how do you see this comment vs your thought that VIP bonuses decrease by 50%?

I have a problem with ipoker. I was registered for a few 500e PLO HUSNG last week and got a disconnect. I was in the middle of playing one and sitting registered for a second one when the disconnect happened. Obviously, I lost the first, being blinded off disconnected (which is fair since the table has "no DP").

Here is the problem: Someone sat me one the second one (while still unregistered) and blinded me off. I was not unregistered from the SNG after being disconnected. More importantly, there is no feature in their software to be able to automatically unregister from an SNG when disconnecting. Had I been sitting a few SNGs, I would have easily been blinded out of thousand of dollars.


You are open game to any sort of DDoS attack when sitting SNGs on ipoker basically.


Here is the email they replied with to the issue:

Hi {Customer’s Name} (sic),

Thank you for contacting us and I understand how you feel.

However, the information that we have provided you was based on the result of a full investigation. Your concern has been diligently investigated and has undergone a full and thorough review by a group of dedicated agents.

We understand that you are not satisfied with the results; but we aim to provide a fair, reliable and competent conclusion in line with our goal to deliver excellent customer service to all our valued customers.

Should you have other queries, do not hesitate to contact us.

Ron Joseph
William Hill Poker
Customer Services

And, before you ask, yes they did forget to fill in my name in the pre-made email they replied with. I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried. I would like to know where to post this to get relevant attention. Clearly WillHill and ipoker are uninterested to do anything with this injustice, so I want the problem to get public attention.

Wow what and outrageous reply and blunder by them.
You should contact your affiliate they might have the right names to talk to or
even could negotiate in your name as they usually treat their costumers much better than ipoker.
Specially someone who plays higher and generates a lot of income for them.