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10-23-2008 , 05:02 AM

Jurrr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,736

Can I get this in or would it be terrible?

Just joined this table so they are unknowns...

$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players

Stacks:
UTG ($138.25)
CO ($80.00)
BTN ($201.50)
SB ($220.30)
Hero ($200.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BB T

UTG calls $2, 2 folds, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $26, UTG raises to $86, SB calls $78, Hero...?

Edit - obv I mean PLO200

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10-23-2008 , 05:31 AM

DontUCry

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 37

jam it, your equity 3 handed is great and you might be in the dream scenario where they both have aces. Even against AA and KK you are fine.

Shove

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10-23-2008 , 05:50 AM

Parlay Slow

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,122

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Originally Posted by DontUCry

jam it, your equity 3 handed is great and you might be in the dream scenario where they both have aces. Even against AA and KK you are fine.

Shove

why is shoving better than calling?

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10-23-2008 , 05:54 AM

BCQ

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 290

Looks like a superstandard call, you are stacking off on any flop giving you OESD+ or a pair+, and you have the opportunity to fold and save the remaining $110 if the flop hits like KQ4 or 255 or A75, etc.

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10-23-2008 , 05:58 AM

Mamet

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 129

I think it's very unlikely they both have AA, because I doubt the SB would pass up the opportunity to shove with AA and try to push you out if that's what he had. I think SB's most likely hand is some kind of rundown.

I like calling here because you'll have great relative position postflop. UTG is going to shove almost any flop, and you'll get to see the SB's action before you make a decision. If he folds you can safely call with any piece, if he shoves or calls then you make a decision.

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10-23-2008 , 06:04 AM

CZI

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,351

Yeah, what BCQ said. I have no clue why you would want to shove in this spot. Your fold equity is zero and you can save yourself a lot of dollarz when the flop comes down KJ5hh and the like.

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10-23-2008 , 06:30 AM

tilterman

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 107

hero fold.easy fold.

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10-23-2008 , 06:45 AM

MauriceSch

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Originally Posted by tilterman

hero fold.easy fold.

Please stop posting. Easy stop.

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10-23-2008 , 08:00 AM

Yurikk

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 75

I think UTG have AAxx like he is raising, but don't know about SB as he is calling, but with your move Im with BCQ and CZI, call and watch the flop first.

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10-23-2008 , 09:31 AM

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Poolside

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,243

call pre and reevaluate on the flop. u hit a ton of flops really well, but u can also whiff a lot too.

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10-23-2008 , 10:20 AM

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Jurrr

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,736

Thanks for your comments. I guess this is a pretty simply hand and a standard call.

Spoiler:

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10-23-2008 , 10:22 AM

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batterial

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Originally Posted by BCQ

This.

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10-23-2008 , 11:10 AM

#13

JackInDaCrak

Just Another Dopamine Pump

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Jesus... good table selection imo

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10-23-2008 , 12:19 PM

#14

blopp

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,756

call so you can fold 223 AKQ etc flops... so standard.

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10-23-2008 , 12:33 PM

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secondnuts

adept

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call and save$

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10-23-2008 , 01:02 PM

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Sly_Fox

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Originally Posted by Jurrr

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Hero is an elite game. Also std call

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10-23-2008 , 04:30 PM

#17

ShipMoar

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Originally Posted by BCQ

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