if you had any ****ing clue who you were talking to youd take it back lol


i never fold, but this is an easy spot to.

just too aa heavy, they never really have anything else really.

Sorry for my responses in this thread don't mean to be a jerk. LollivePoker if your somehow ivey,isildurr or galfond I apologize sincerely.

pokahblows, why don't you stop talkin for awhile? maybe sit the next couple of plays out.

I have to respond to people talking to me. That's the point of a forum.

I admit I'm wrong, but you guys are taking turns raping my logic. Not a good feeling.

It amazes me the people you choose to argue with. These are people who are highly respected and winning players playing orders of magnitude above your current level.

That doesn't mean that they can't be wrong or that you can't have a valid dissenting view but if I were you, I would certainly have ample data ready to support my contrarion position before I made it.

To the OP, I believe it was a good fold.

You can, if you fold and save the money to buy another cake.

I would argue that the math makes it nearly impossible for villain not to have aces. Going with the info given, we simply establish a read and then use conditional probabilities to make the right play. I think under these conditions most live players would fold.

I never played PLO online other than 1-2x with no knowledge of the game, but at equivalent skill level stakes (I dont know what they are but certainly not PLO 500), is this a call?

yuck spot but u can't beat much and even if when in 10% of the cases you have him beat here SB can still have QJ and have u drawing pretty thin. limp/raise is almost always AA esp vs nit.

Did sb call miami? If so I would like to know results?

SB check folded...he had a junk hand he showed me after i mucked and was 3-4 buy-ins down at this point. Just trying to gamble and see if he could connect on a flop.

Deeper, I fold for sure...

but man, I wouldn't say his range is specifically AAxx. A lot of times, these players will gamble and limp/raise with big AKQx type hands just trying to gamble it up, especially if they view the game as being wild and aggressive (thinking their big Axxx hands have value).

If villain has been card dead or lost any hands recently or if I have any reason to think that he is capable of not having AAxx here then I'm probably calling. If behind, spike your 5 outs.

As is out too so NFD is in his range as well. IDK, I guess folding is fine but it's close. Dissect the hands previous to this one...

...has villain raised ever? Has he limp/raised before? Does he look anxious to play a big pot? And why did he under-raise the pot? Is he just an idiot incapable of calculating a preflop raise?

That said you're probably toast here ~60%. Gutshot does help your equity a lot though, without it I turbo muck. I wouldn't feel terrible about folding though.

I wouldn't fold, but only because I am a recently reformed terrible PLO nit, and I used to limp repot hands that didn't contain AA when I was short enough. Even a terrible nit will have other hands here, esp if he is aware of his nit image. This flop is so likely to smash his limp/repot range so he can easily get his stack in here expecting a fold from hands that didn't hit a set or connect very well.

You could very well be right about him having AA, but getting coolered once in a while is way better than soul-read folding the best hand too often.

Well the opponent is obv connected to the board somehow, pot committed and the hand isn't horrible given how he played it pre usually (limp/raising shorties). I'm not saying that he has only aces, but I'm really struggling to come up with a range of hands against that you have the necessary percentages since AA is a big percentage of it.

Saying that it's a cooler and unlikely, because you have one ace is somewhat illogical since the simulators do take that into account.

This seems like an pretty easy fold.

who are you?

meh i go with it

The next session we played together a few weeks later the villain brought the hand up to me and told me he had top set aces...he could have been lying but I didn't ask him about it.

Urubu is right. How does the math make it impossible? And as someone mentioned the guy is leading pot into a 3 way pot, i.e. he always has it. Plus limp, 3b is AAxx a giant portion of the time.

Also like the flat pre with both of our big fds don't mind playing this hand multiway at all.

lay it down!!!