OK please ignore the fact that this is microstakes and think about it in terms of the games you play if you think its applicable. As many of you know, I'm working my way back up to my normal games.

I think that this is a pretty interesting hand given preflop and flop action. No super read on villain other than he's not a total fish and has some clue. Probably somebody who is trying to actually get better at the game and move up in stakes. IMO his range is basically a set, top two, or a lower FD / wrappy type hand.

Who gets it in right now? Are you excited to get it in or just begrudgingly thinking you've got just about the right amount of equity vs. his range?

Anybody call? If so whats the plan for turn blanks, turn boardpairs, turn clubs, or turns that give us the nuts?

Anybody fold?


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $52.55
UTG: $48.75
Hero (MP): $24.65
CO: $43.05
BTN: $25.15
SB: $9.55

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with 4 8 K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.50) 2 7 3 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75, BTN raises to $13, BB folds, Hero

looks like a good spot to over shove to me! But I stack off light at PLO! I think the gutshot may put you over the top here w/ enough equity to shove this. Villain may think you have AA and want to scare you off your 1 pair hand.

You have no FE but you won't be able to call a turn AI if you whiff and the board doesn't go bad on you. Of course, if you just call you can fold to a board pair on the turn, but that's an aweful nitty way of playing Omahahahahaha.


Disclaimer: (I may give bad advice since I'm still learning this game!)

our flush draw is to the 2nd nuts. this is a terrible spot if vallain turns of As7s7xXx. i find a fold here as we're not drawing to the nuts, and even if we hit our miracle cards we could still see our chips going to villain.

Wow, you're giving him topset + NFD just because he raises you here? He'll have it occassionaly but not that often if you ask me.

Although I tend to stack of pretty light as well, I think that this is a nice hand to shove with...He's calling probably calling with overpair + lower FD's type of hands as well.

well spotted, did the convertor get the hand wrong or were you drawing to the K draw?? i think its a fairly standard fold if its a K high flush draw - with a board like this he could easily have the A high draw with maybe a pair leaving you in pretty desperate shape.

Id also limp this hand in early position it dosent quite have enough going for it - i prefer calling as i want some information about the other players hands, ill only raise this if i have been card dead for any length of time

Yeah my bad the converter is right the title is wrong -- the backdoor was to the nuts and the FD was to the second nuts.

at 25plo you might get a call from overpair and lower flush draw. but if we apply this hand to a higher(better?) level very few decent players are gonna stack off with as weak a holding as mid-range flush draw and overpair. if i shoved here i'd expect to be snap called by A-high draw + pair or better.

Your right...forgot to take element of better players into analyses...anywhere above PLO50, I'm folding this

sadly im a long way off moving above plo50... tilt is a cruel mistress!

Nobody seems to mention CO that has to act behind Hero.
Call imo, see what CO does, check out a turn, relax.
You can do that at these stakes....I think.

... I dont' find a call desirable because the complete lack of nut outs... I don't find a shove desirable because we got no made hand equity and probably nil in FE... therefore, with great regret and sorrow, I am forced to conclude I must abandon the babies I have already put in the pot.

your oop w/ a hand you can never feel good about. fold. next.

Oh, btw, a call to see a non-pairing turn isn't bad either here IMO.

I feel pretty good about this hand when I run it versus a possible / probable range. next.

It depends what you think villain's range is. If you include 2pr, and wraps a shove is fine because you have plenty of equity. If his range is skewed to sets only a fold is fine.