Villain is a good regular running at 31/24 over a 1kish sample. Don't think we have much history, but he probably views me as a bit of a spewtard, which I am.

How's the line? Should I just call OTT? Don't think folding is optimal, since he should be floating me often here, given that my 3bet is mainly high card heavy.


$0.50/$1 Zoom Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($390.29) 390bb
UTG+1 ($330.75) 331bb
CO ($77.20) 77bb
BTN ($103.98) 104bb
SB ($133.03) 133bb
Mr.Green! (BB) ($155.50) 156bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Mr.Green! is BB K Q Q A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN calls $3, 1 fold, Mr.Green! raises to $12.50, UTG+1 calls $9.50, BTN calls $9.50

Flop: 5 9 5 ($38, 3 players)
Mr.Green! bets $16, UTG+1 folds, BTN calls $16

Turn: 4 ($70, 2 players)
Mr.Green! checks, BTN bets $29, Mr.Green! goes all-in $127, BTN goes all-in $46.48

River: 6 ($220.96, 2 players, 2 all-in)

That card doesn't really do much so If he has a 5 he prolly is not folding

Im not looking to get him fold anything, but rather get it vs his inside wrap/straight draw hands or get him calling a backdoor fd.

I struggle a lot in spots like these so interested in what people think.

Given the information, it's WP.

This is an I don't know spot.

How often is often, the bottom of a fairly honest continuing range on flop will be 6 outs, he should be raising small opposed to floating as it doesn't cost much to shut down a high card heavy range, but it depends so much on dynamic.

Against a 31/24 , doesn't say much about if he checks behind the 6 outs on turn or not. Total floats I can't assume, as I'm pessimistic.

I'd probably just call on the turn. The c/r seems odd to me... wouldn't you just continue betting the turn with 5xxx, rather than c/r? I feel like you're repping a pretty narrow range, and you're kind of overplaying your actual hand.

We have decent visibility on the river. Overcards don't really kill our hand, since we have TPTK if an ace or king comes in. Check/calling turn (as opposed to c/r) also allows him to continue with his bluffs.

I also think his small bet sizing indicates a stab / weak made hand, rather than a range that has us crushed.

Pretty sure I'm villain. I think it's wp but don't look for FE on the turn

Bet smaller flop, fire small turn, check decide river IMO

Or check flop and go from there

river is not a good card.
6 would be worse
just thinking loud

It depends who am I up against in regards to shoving 5xxx here, I might call vs some while ship vs others.

The problem with my actual hand is that this particular regular is obviously well aware of how high card/overpair heavy my range is here. That's why he will constantly put me into tough spots whenever a low card board runs out. Of course, I could definitely just check here too and re-evaluate while keeping the pot manageable.

The reasoning behind my turn shove is that I believe he would play optimal on the river after I call the turn, thus betting what beats my range here and checking/folding with hands that do not.

Anyway, I'm getting a bit confused from time to time, thanks for the input so far!

I think you're assuming he'll float flop blank more than he will. If he views you as a spewtard won't he also assume you'll have no fold button for your overpairs? He's got a 5 too much methinks..

Does his preflop play but a load of low rundowns in his range? Wouldn't he raise flop with 678*?

Some good points, thanks. Will have some food for thought after the session.

you should just shove turn if you think villain peels light enough
leaning towards c/f though since everybody in zoom is a nit

Meh, I'm not sure if he peels me when I make a bit bet on the turn with a wide range of hands. He certainly bets a way wider range compared to what he is calling a shove with. After he puts more money in the pot, though, don't see him folding even a gutter and pair or something like that here.

Agree with mafff in thinking if he has 876x he would probably raise flop knowing he has so much fold equity while you don't have a 5 very often. I think the turn play is pretty spewey unless you have a very specific dynamic with villain.

Not sure how much value we create by betting flop unless we think Villain continues very often, and we have no real reason to protect. Seems like a very good spot to check/call most likely. Dislike pre also, hands plays very well in a single raised pot and plays very poor to a 4 bet, all we do here is bloat the pot with a marginal high card hand 3 ways OOP.

As played, I am not sure what is best but if I bet flop, its mostly for value in that he will call flop too light to float but i think this is a bad assumption and would c/f.

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