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10-22-2009 , 05:23 PM

Burnsabre

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Villain would be this agro with his big draws, 2p's, and sets on the flop. Turn is kinda tricky cus I think he would likely take a free card with his 2p's and sets.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: $63.75
Hero (BB): $59.45

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q

BTN/SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN/SB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($27.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $27, Hero calls $27

River: ($81.00) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $23.25 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $18.95 all in

Question 1) More agro on flop?
2) Lead the turn?
3) Can the river be a fold getting like 4-1?

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10-22-2009 , 05:28 PM

jwc529

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just check/raise the turn

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10-22-2009 , 05:43 PM

cobrastatus

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Originally Posted by jwc529

just check/raise the turn

Why do you think check/raising the turn is a good line? Not calling you out, just curious. I think you have zero fold equity when he pots the turn, and anything he is potting for value has you in a bad spot, I think check/raising flop with our pair, gutshot, and K high flush draw could be a better line, for a few reasons. If the villain here is insanely aggro, he could just take our flop check to mean weakness and pot his entire range, meaning we could still have plenty of fold equity with a checkraise, and if we get potted, there are only a few combos that have us in terrible shape (79xx, set + nfd, that's about it).

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10-22-2009 , 05:47 PM

jwc529

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well if you're continuing then I'd c/r. if we think we're beat we don't have odds to call (let alone ever calling and folding any river)
folding seems pretty weak
you don't have any fold equity on flop either, but you'll be in decent enough shape, nothing to write home about

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10-22-2009 , 05:54 PM

cobrastatus

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Originally Posted by jwc529

Oh you're right about that, I read through it too quickly and didn't see that we got potted on the flop. Agree with zero fold equity on the flop

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10-23-2009 , 03:01 AM

Doorbread

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Unless he can be bluffing the flop you should be betting this turn because you're going to give free cards to all of his sets / two pairs that will just click it back once you do. Once you check and he pots, I don't see how you don't put him in.

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10-23-2009 , 07:45 AM

Le Alexandre

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As played in theory I'd fold the river since I just don't see anyone bluffing here giving you these odds, but in game I sometimes spitecall, giving there's a nonzero percent chance (although very small) that I'm actually good. Ship turn tho.

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10-23-2009 , 10:11 AM

nitsanper

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no one shipping flop?
ship flop or c/r turn for all in.

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