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08-20-2011 , 02:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullitos
Villain had 42bb to start the hand. Do you flat flop looking to bluff some turns and to prevent getting shoved on by the big stack?

Or would you raise smallish to make shorty fold naked AA/KK/QQ? And maybe fold vs. action from big stack?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10304362

Hero (BTN): $400 (100 bb)
SB: $396 (99 bb)
BB: $374.70 (93.7 bb)
UTG: $170.10 (42.5 bb)
MP: $921.80 (230.5 bb)
CO: $484.20 (121.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 A Q 4
UTG raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero calls $8, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($28) J 5 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $20 Hero ???
flat.
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08-20-2011 , 05:59 AM
not a specific hand but how do we adjust when the blind structure is not the standard sb/bb, where the sb is half the bb but rather when the sb is the same size as the bb? Specificly in hu?
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08-20-2011 , 07:26 AM
good time to hero call?

villain calls 52% and 3bets only 9.9% but has a habit of barreling, cb flop 82%

[converted_hand][hand_history]Merge, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10315622

BB: $715 (119.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,167.61 (194.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 4 6 6
Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $54, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108) 4 Q T (2 players)
BB bets $81, Hero calls $81

Turn: ($270) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $120, Hero calls $120

River: ($510) Q (2 players)
BB bets $460 and is all-in
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08-20-2011 , 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullitos
Villain had 42bb to start the hand. Do you flat flop looking to bluff some turns and to prevent getting shoved on by the big stack?

Or would you raise smallish to make shorty fold naked AA/KK/QQ? And maybe fold vs. action from big stack?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10304362

Hero (BTN): $400 (100 bb)
SB: $396 (99 bb)
BB: $374.70 (93.7 bb)
UTG: $170.10 (42.5 bb)
MP: $921.80 (230.5 bb)
CO: $484.20 (121.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 A Q 4
UTG raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero calls $8, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($28) J 5 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $20 Hero ???
raising to clean up 2pair outs has to be best imo
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08-20-2011 , 11:56 AM
@Syous, id fold river...

@bullitos on the AQ54ds hand id raise $56 on flop. pretty sure about this..
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08-21-2011 , 11:07 AM
I raised to $52, so I'm happy!
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08-21-2011 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by urubu111
@Syous, id fold river...

@bullitos on the AQ54ds hand id raise $56 on flop. pretty sure about this..
what do you think he's jamming that beats me?
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08-21-2011 , 12:41 PM
big flushes as you clearly dont have one and are never full after you dont raise flop.
I also wouldn't discard boats completely from his range (although clearly not a huge part) as some people bet turn with a set / 2pair to protect vs straight draws that still have plenty of equity but will be folding this turn.

that being said though i think this hand comes down more to reads on opponent.
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08-21-2011 , 06:39 PM
Hero (SB): $2,625.00
BB: $2,020.00

Hero posts SB $20.00, BB posts BB $20.00

Pre Flop: ($40.00) Hero has K 5 A J

Hero raises to $60.00, BB raises to $180.00, Hero calls $120.00

Flop: ($360.00, 2 players) Q 5 3
BB bets $220.00, Hero?


peel vs reg?
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08-22-2011 , 07:33 AM
Info on villain/s not really relevant, UTG is decent lag reg fwiw

Poker Stars $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $402.70
BTN: $1372.99
SB: $408.92
Hero (BB): $400.00
UTG: $400.00
MP: $357.85

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with T 3 3 T
UTG calls $4, 1 fold, CO raises to $16, 2 folds, Hero calls $12, UTG calls $12

Flop: ($50.00) 5 K 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $36.00, UTG calls $36, CO folds

Turn: ($122.00) 5 (2 players)
HERO?

Whats people's standard turn/river line in these spots against decent-good opponents?
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08-22-2011 , 08:29 AM
^^ Bet turn, bet river. The question can only arise if you get raised. Then you have to decide.
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08-22-2011 , 11:08 AM
Looking to talk hands with people over skype. I have mostly played live PLO (25/50 - 200/400) on the regular. Looking to get into online. If anyone wants to talk hands, send me a PM. Cheers
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08-23-2011 , 01:14 AM
villains is a reg not much history seems good and solid fold turn? I dont really see him raising flop without a pretty big combo draw that includes the nfd and I pretty much never have it after just flatting the flop


    Poker Stars, $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10359462

    BTN: $5,234.50 (523.5 bb)
    SB: $577.50 (57.8 bb)
    Hero (BB): $2,388 (238.8 bb)
    CO: $2,350.50 (235.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A K Q A
    CO raises to $30, BTN calls $30, SB folds, Hero raises to $125, CO folds, BTN calls $95

    Flop: ($285) 3 J T (2 players)
    Hero bets $200, BTN raises to $500, Hero calls $300

    Turn: ($1,285) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $420

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1,285 pot
    Final Board: 3 J T Q
    BTN mucked and lost (-$625 net)
    Hero mucked A K Q A and lost (-$625 net)



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    08-23-2011 , 01:22 AM
    With only 1.5* pot left you can consider repotting the flop, turn fold is good but I disagree that you can't have a flush.
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    08-23-2011 , 01:33 AM
    I think I'm up against a made hand + draw mostly since a wrap + fd will just pot the flop and most dry made hands will call to shove turn so I get it in pretty bad on the flop if I do decide to repot it
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    08-23-2011 , 03:02 AM
    Raise/getting it in is completely reasonable. I don't mind calling either.
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    08-23-2011 , 05:34 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 99centsaddsup
    villains is a reg not much history seems good and solid fold turn? I dont really see him raising flop without a pretty big combo draw that includes the nfd and I pretty much never have it after just flatting the flop


      Poker Stars, $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10359462

      BTN: $5,234.50 (523.5 bb)
      SB: $577.50 (57.8 bb)
      Hero (BB): $2,388 (238.8 bb)
      CO: $2,350.50 (235.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A K Q A
      CO raises to $30, BTN calls $30, SB folds, Hero raises to $125, CO folds, BTN calls $95

      Flop: ($285) 3 J T (2 players)
      Hero bets $200, BTN raises to $500, Hero calls $300

      Turn: ($1,285) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $420

      Spoiler:
      Results: $1,285 pot
      Final Board: 3 J T Q
      BTN mucked and lost (-$625 net)
      Hero mucked A K Q A and lost (-$625 net)



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      i repot on flop. as played i c/f turn.
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      08-23-2011 , 06:07 AM
      Seat 2: hero($11481.75 in chips)
      Seat 3: loose/passive ($4850 in chips)
      Seat 4: villan ($9058 in chips)
      Seat 5: ($4260 in chips)
      Seat 6: ($6803 in chips)
      villain: posts small blind $25
      : posts big blind $50
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to heron[8c Js Td 9s]
      2 folds
      hero: raises $100 to $150
      button: calls $150
      villan: raises $500 to $650
      1 fold
      hero: calls $500
      button: calls $500
      *** FLOP *** [8h Jc Ac]
      villan: checks
      hero: checks
      button: checks
      *** TURN *** [8h Jc Ac] [Qh]
      villan: bets $1425


      help. villan is aggro reg from sweden. button is loose passive, expect him to call a lot of his fds on the turn. I expect villan to bet all of his range that hits the flop. Maybe he'll check call with kk and nfd, as we're kinda deep.
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      08-23-2011 , 06:19 AM
      If you weren't you, I'd say that was a fabricated hh

      I think I like calling best.
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      08-23-2011 , 06:29 AM
      heh, i havent installed HEM yet, so couldnt dig up the whole hand, so the part i had wouldnt convert. got a feeling most people are gonna say call.
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      08-23-2011 , 06:55 PM
      just to make sure, noone plays this any differently ever, right? villain is a random reg

      Poker Stars, $5/$10 PL Omaha Cash Game, 6 Players
      LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

      Hero (BTN): $2,834.50
      SB: $2,405
      BB: $3,076
      UTG: $612
      MP: $1,890.50
      CO: $3,825

      Pre-Flop: A 9 6 8 dealt to Hero (BTN)
      2 folds, CO raises to $40, Hero raises to $147, 2 folds, CO calls $107

      Flop: ($321) 3 6 2 (2 Players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $190, CO raises to $888, Hero raises to $2,685.50 and is All-In, CO calls $1,797.50
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      08-23-2011 , 09:50 PM
      BB: $8,041.00
      UTG: $18,562.00
      Hero (CO): $6,590.00
      BTN: $4,650.00
      SB: $8,491.00

      SB posts SB $50.00, BB posts BB $50.00

      Pre Flop: ($100.00) Hero has T J K 3

      fold, Hero raises to $150.00, fold, SB raises to $500.00, fold, Hero calls $350.00

      Flop: ($1050.00, 2 players) J 9 3
      SB checks, Hero bets $675.00, SB calls $675.00

      Turn: ($2400.00, 2 players) A
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($2400.00, 2 players) 4
      SB checks,Hero?



      Bet turn here? value on river? vs agro reg, prob views me the same
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      08-23-2011 , 10:01 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Adiprene1
      just to make sure, noone plays this any differently ever, right? villain is a random reg

      Poker Stars, $5/$10 PL Omaha Cash Game, 6 Players
      LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

      Hero (BTN): $2,834.50
      SB: $2,405
      BB: $3,076
      UTG: $612
      MP: $1,890.50
      CO: $3,825

      Pre-Flop: A 9 6 8 dealt to Hero (BTN)
      2 folds, CO raises to $40, Hero raises to $147, 2 folds, CO calls $107

      Flop: ($321) 3 6 2 (2 Players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $190, CO raises to $888, Hero raises to $2,685.50 and is All-In, CO calls $1,797.50

      dont think its that clearcut. you expect him to do this with KK+fd? since you have nfd struggling to find hands that he'd get 270bbs in with that arent 45/sets
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      08-23-2011 , 10:14 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by chinaski101
      heh, i havent installed HEM yet, so couldnt dig up the whole hand, so the part i had wouldnt convert. got a feeling most people are gonna say call.
      awkward hand, he wont have many KK in his range cuz of pf, but if he does then its going to pretty premium id imagine so some KKTx or like KKQJ. would he bet flop with all AKT would he bet with KQT? Would he 3b say KQT6ds pf? I'd imagine he'd bet KQJT/KQJ9 on the flop. looks like he has a hand like yours and has T9 too/KJT9/strong KK. rivers gonna be very tough to play. If he fires a blank can you call? btn could call behind as well and there are q. a few awkward rivers

      some thoughts, basically i think folding is prudent but id probably end up calling anyway
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      08-23-2011 , 11:23 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by chinaski101
      Seat 2: hero($11481.75 in chips)
      Seat 3: loose/passive ($4850 in chips)
      Seat 4: villan ($9058 in chips)
      Seat 5: ($4260 in chips)
      Seat 6: ($6803 in chips)
      villain: posts small blind $25
      : posts big blind $50
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to heron[8c Js Td 9s]
      2 folds
      hero: raises $100 to $150
      button: calls $150
      villan: raises $500 to $650
      1 fold
      hero: calls $500
      button: calls $500
      *** FLOP *** [8h Jc Ac]
      villan: checks
      hero: checks
      button: checks
      *** TURN *** [8h Jc Ac] [Qh]
      villan: bets $1425


      help. villan is aggro reg from sweden. button is loose passive, expect him to call a lot of his fds on the turn. I expect villan to bet all of his range that hits the flop. Maybe he'll check call with kk and nfd, as we're kinda deep.
      gross, fold might even be best, good villains will be bluffing a % of the time on the river assuming u never have the nuts if u flat and raising this turn seems super gross too

      not I'm not sure call/call is all that profitable either
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