How do you know he had air in that other pot when he folded to your shove?

Anyway, given that he's barreled and you've raised and he's folded, I think he would do the same in this spot and barrel if he had a big hand so when he checks and you bet weakish he's gonna be having a lot of hands you beat. Call.

turn bet vs a range of [3xxx, air] is bad imo

Well, I would be 3betting this flop with air sometimes too so when he calls I think his range is more 3x, Qx, pocket pairs and he just folds or 4bets air on the flop. I dunno though -- I haven't seen many people flat air in that spot but that doesn't mean people don't do it.

i guess it was an assumption, but he instafolded with little behind.

you 3bet the flop and bet turn, and he still shoves. it sucks but this is a clear fold imo. in his eyes, you have a 3 soo often.

Party, $2/$4 PL Omaha Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $400
UTG: $255.60
CO: $286.90
BTN: $504.70
Hero (SB): $638.30

Pre-Flop: Q K Q T dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $4, CO folds, BTN raises to $18, Hero raises to $62, 2 folds, BTN calls $44

Flop: ($132) 2 2 K (2 Players)
Hero bets $88, BTN calls $88

Turn: ($308) J (2 Players)
Hero bets $308

Std turn play right?

anyone ?

^^ I don't mind just giving up on turn. I don't think you're going to get very many folds on the turn since he'll often have two pair/ pair + straight draw / flush draw that will peel in addition to some straights that'll probably shove. The river is going to bring a flush or pair the board too often and you'll have to blindly bet hoping he didn't make his hand or just give up.

Board:
SB: $1,047
BB: $943
UTG: $6,119
UTG+1: $1,836
CO: $1,000
Button: $1,509

Dealt to Button 5 Q 9 A

Pre-flop:
(3 folds), Button raises to $35, SB raises to $110, (1 folds), Button calls $80

Flop: ($240) 3 J 6 (2 Players)
SB bets $190, Button raises to $810, SB raises to $742, Button calls $122



standard right

Board:
Button: $3,882.50
SB: $1,005
BB: $1,931.41
UTG: $2,630.50
CO: $1,038

Dealt to SB K J 7 A

Pre-flop:
(3 folds), SB raises to $25, BB raises to $80, SB raises to $235, BB calls $175

Flop: ($505) Q A 5 (2 Players)
SB bets $400????

villain is kinda nitty, bet call bvb?

Board:
SB: $378.45
BB: $200
UTG: $264
CO: $741.45
Button: $621.65

Dealt to CO 7 4 6 3

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), CO raises to $21, Button calls $21, SB raises to $87, (1 folds), CO calls $69, Button calls $69

Flop: ($276) 5 8 Q (3 Players)
SB bets $276, CO raises to $651.45, Button calls $531.65, SB calls $12.45

Turn: ($1,747.55) 2 (3 Players)

River: ($1,747.55) K (3 Players)

ok: pfr open is debatable, 3bet call also debatable but i knew that button never comes over the top...

jimmyhat - If i bet here it would be a lot less than pot, if he somehow has a 2 then he's sticking it in no matter what, if he has any sort of draw on the turn we want him to come along really.

fullcontact
hand 1 - with our bd's yea i'm shipping here too.
hand 2 - I would bet a lot less and fold to a shove / give up vs a call. No one is bluff raising here and you have so little equity vs any hand he wants to continue with.
hand 3 - With the hearts there i fold to the pot, without them i'd ship.

CompEng: yes, very. Your betsize will often induce him to check/ship his entire continuing range with these stacks.

Roy: why bet the turn? To accomplish what?

what do you guys think of this spot http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...o-spot-806153/

fc, i think #3 is a pretty clear flop fold, preflop whatever

I suppose since if I am 3betting the flop with air I would barrel the turn small to try and pick up the pot if he had a queen or something.

I tank-called the hand and he showed Q885 but I did feel like it was an incorrect call given the information I had at the time.

Is this always a call? UTG insta shoved on the flop, I was already tilted from the session earlier, cursed at the flop and snapfolded without giving it any kind of thought. I've been vomiting all night since, going back and forth in my mind about whether my fold was hideous, just questionable or even a break even play. If only that ass had shipped it preflop... FWIW I woulda had 65% on the flop

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PL Omaha $6(BB) Replayer
SB ($864)
BB ($222)
UTG ($1,332)
CO ($1,233)
Hero ($1,912)

Dealt to Hero K 7 K J

UTG raises to $21, fold, Hero calls $21, SB raises to $90, BB raises to $222 (AI), UTG calls $201, Hero raises to $979, SB calls $774 (AI), UTG calls $757

FLOP ($3,046) Q A Q

UTG bets $352 (AI), Hero folds

TURN ($3,046) Q A Q Q

RIVER ($3,046) Q A Q Q 9

BB shows 5 4 K 3
(Pre 32%, Flop 27.8%, Turn 0.0%)

UTG shows 4 6 8 4
(Pre 18%, Flop 27.0%, Turn 100.0%)

SB shows T 8 7 J
(Pre 50%, Flop 45.2%, Turn 0.0%)

UTG wins $3,043

that hand must of tilted the bejesus out of you

omg call with 11-1 when u know u have minimum 2 outs.

i agree with call, although i'd have to give at least say a 30% chance of either the 3better or 4better having aces.

my head hurts trying to figure out the PF action but you can never ever ever ever ever fold there imo.

UTG is my hero

I am SB. haha

this ****ing queen on turn. lifetilt ;P after that hand he instantly left

Board:
BB: $654
UTG: $629.11
CO: $1,097.75
Button: $624
SB: $600

Dealt to SB 2 J A A

Pre-flop:
UTG calls $6, (2 folds), SB raises to $21, BB calls $18, UTG calls $18

Flop: ($72) 2 J 3 (3 Players)
SB bets $60, (1 folds), UTG calls $60

Turn: ($192) A (2 Players)
SB bets $180, UTG raises to $545.11, SB calls $324

standard hand imo

Board:
UTG: $66.30
CO: $1,115.60
Button: $1,352.70
SB: $314.30
BB: $611.90

Dealt to BB K 7 T K

Pre-flop:
UTG calls $4, (1 folds), Button raises to $18, (1 folds), BB raises to $56, (1 folds), Button calls $42

Flop: ($126) 4 J A (2 Players)
BB bets $104, Button raises to $328.50
shove?

villain is a standard tag. nothing special.

Board:
SB: $556.60
BB: $400
UTG: $2,128.82
UTG+1: $245.76
CO: $362
Button: $738.97

Dealt to Button K 9 7 K

Pre-flop:
UTG raises to $14, (1 folds), CO calls $14, Button calls $14, (2 folds)

Flop: ($48) J 3 8 (3 Players)
UTG bets $28, CO calls $28, Button calls $28

Turn: ($132) T (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Button bets $104, UTG raises to $444


against same villain..

mhhhh

his check raise on turn is soooo strange.

Additionly I have the diamand draw.

could he ever play a set or blockers in that way? I need 37%.

against the nuts:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: J38T

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Kd9d7sKh	23.75%	8	3
9sQdKcJc	76.25%	29	3