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01-21-2013 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
Nowadays math is so important. Back then esp like urubu said NL HU you don't really needed it, most HU players back then were feel players where you knew you are good or not in a specific spot. Those were the good days when people had more gamble than all the **** math and ranges.
Some of the ranges were broken down in "feel" fashion as well, I can relate
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01-21-2013 , 08:55 PM
PLO round in mix game MP is smart winning player overall but too loose pf and gets it in too light on flop/turns and CO losing mix player and about 35/15 pf and can't say much more about tendencies.

Poker Stars $10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $920.62
Hero (SB): $6135.65
BB: $5538.50
UTG: $1512.00
MP: $3194.18
CO: $2321.50

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is SB with T A T A
1 fold, MP raises to $50, CO calls $50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $220, 1 fold, MP calls $170, CO calls $170

Flop: ($680.00) J 7 2 (3 players)
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01-21-2013 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
are you sure? i have been playing my entire life thinking ''i have 5:1 odds. i have 20%''
What about when you have 2:1. Did you think you had 50%?!
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01-22-2013 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Enon
PLO round in mix game MP is smart winning player overall but too loose pf and gets it in too light on flop/turns and CO losing mix player and about 35/15 pf and can't say much more about tendencies.

Poker Stars $10/$20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $920.62
Hero (SB): $6135.65
BB: $5538.50
UTG: $1512.00
MP: $3194.18
CO: $2321.50

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is SB with T A T A
1 fold, MP raises to $50, CO calls $50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $220, 1 fold, MP calls $170, CO calls $170

Flop: ($680.00) J 7 2 (3 players)
what about not potting it pre
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01-22-2013 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by g-p
what about not potting it pre
What about not posting again

Bet and call one person
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01-22-2013 , 02:48 AM
Doorbread crushing quick checkup thread
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01-25-2013 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
the pot odds thing, I also learned it correctly about a year ago too! Never really needed it for NL.
Well yeah why bother with pot odds when you only play people that are ambiguous on whether a flush beats a straight
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01-25-2013 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fees
Well yeah why bother with pot odds when you only play people that are ambiguous on whether a flush beats a straight
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01-28-2013 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
What about not posting again

Bet and call one person
great
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02-02-2013 , 08:31 PM
Not much history but villain seems to be a winning LAG. How to play the turn?


BTN: $1,667.07 (166.7 bb)
CO: $1,264.75 (126.5 bb)
BB: $1,287 (128.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,372 (137.2 bb)
MP: $1,828.75 (182.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 T 8 T
3 folds, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $20

Flop: ($60) A 8 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $43, BB calls $43

Turn: ($146) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $113, BB raises to $340,
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02-02-2013 , 10:08 PM
call, and call blanks. he has AJJ2.
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02-02-2013 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
call, and call blanks. he has AJJ2.
and how about donking all flush and all paired boards? really bad? ok?
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02-03-2013 , 01:06 AM
relatively simple fold
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02-03-2013 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fanerio
relatively simple fold
not really, its a very player dependant spot

I think i jam but im not super happy about it, stacksizes are somewhat awkward
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02-03-2013 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by justfold
not really, its a very player dependant spot

I think i jam but im not super happy about it, stacksizes are somewhat awkward
really? it's going to be tough for a winning lag to have a raise/fold range or for that raising range not to be doing super good against our hand
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02-03-2013 , 01:20 PM
jam is horrible, regardless.
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02-03-2013 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fanerio
relatively simple fold
its bvb, villan is a winning lag - how could you ever fold this with the info given?
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02-03-2013 , 07:43 PM
Lol@folding
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03-10-2013 , 09:21 PM
Hey guys, just played this hand and felt pretty weird about it afterwards. Co and SB are pretty big fish(that somehow found the fold button this hand lol). Never saw Button before, but he seems a pretty loose reg, plays a dozen of tables across the limits. UTG is ok reg. U guys play the hand the same way? The flat pre? And what about turn?

BTN: $439 (109.8 bb)
SB: $759.63 (189.9 bb)
BB: $931.37 (232.8 bb)
UTG: $772.28 (193.1 bb)
Hero (MP): $401.65 (100.4 bb)
CO: $549.35 (137.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 8 6 T
UTG raises to $14, Hero calls $14, CO folds, BTN raises to $62, 2 folds, UTG calls $48, Hero calls $48

Flop: ($192) 9 8 J (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($192) 3 (3 players)
UTG bets $68, Hero calls $68, BTN calls $68

River: ($396) A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $198, BTN raises to $309 and is all-in, UTG folds, Hero calls $73.65 and is all-in

Spoiler:
Results: $939.30 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 9 8 J 3 A
BTN showed K Q J T and won $936.30 ($534.65 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$130 net)
Hero mucked 7 8 6 T and lost (-$401.65 net)

Last edited by MVB; 03-10-2013 at 09:32 PM.
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03-10-2013 , 09:39 PM
what street you are asking advice for? i wouldn't leave money behind otr

turn i would raise w certain dynamics and read on utg sizing
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03-10-2013 , 10:15 PM
I think the turn is most interesting for hero. UTG's turnrange with this sizing is prolly NUTS+redraw (that is trying to induce, or get really light calls), and/or mediocre draws that want to buy a cheap river or w/e.

I think a good case can be made for raising turn, on the other hand I think we can play rivers pretty allright when we just call.

Most interesting thing in the hand is buttons line imo. How often do u guys checkback his hand in a spot like this vs 2 pretty agro regs? And if u do so, u continu slowplaying turn most of time? Really like buttons line. Pretty sure I would just bet flop, and if I a check, I would jam turn like 99% of the time. Wonder how u guys would play buttons hand as default post.
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03-14-2013 , 02:51 AM
(cross posted) Live 9-handed, rich guy's first hand, straddles to $20 and announces he's buying in for minimum $300 and shoving blind... V immediately behind him raises to $50, I flat from SB with AdAc4s2s, rich guy flats. I lead for $125 into $150 on a 7s6s2h flop, V calls, rich guy folds. Turn is Jd, I bet $400 and he jams for $1150 more... hero?

Villain is a much better PLO player than me but I heard he's been playing over 24 hours and massively stuck + trying to get even, so I think he could be getting it in light.

Fkkkkkkkkkkkkkk I know nothing about PLO.
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03-14-2013 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
(cross posted) Live 9-handed, rich guy's first hand, straddles to $20 and announces he's buying in for minimum $300 and shoving blind... V immediately behind him raises to $50, I flat from SB with AdAc4s2s, rich guy flats. I lead for $125 into $150 on a 7s6s2h flop, V calls, rich guy folds. Turn is Jd, I bet $400 and he jams for $1150 more... hero?

Villain is a much better PLO player than me but I heard he's been playing over 24 hours and massively stuck + trying to get even, so I think he could be getting it in light.

Fkkkkkkkkkkkkkk I know nothing about PLO.
Your getting nearly 3:1... Call and don't think twice about it.

Errr... Just read that he shoved for $1150 more. First time I read it I thought he shoved for 1150... I'd probably still call based on the fact he's stuck and been playing for 24 hours.
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03-14-2013 , 10:28 AM
Fold.
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03-14-2013 , 02:22 PM
I was thinking his range is weighted towards high cards since he raised preflop 9-handed, also that he would raise flop with 2pair+? leveling myself? Maybe like a Jxxx rundown that had 1pair on flop? I'm bad at PLO thanks.
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