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08-21-2012 , 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by validand notinuse
dont think youre getting it in great against a pretty tight guy who opened utg and someone with reasonable looking stats who 3bet him.
4-bet/fold if utg pushes?
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08-21-2012 , 03:03 PM
my preferred option would be to just flat the 3bet, i think your hand plays a lot better with money behind. i guess you could 4b/fold but you get flatted in at least one spot decently often and there are a whole lot of flops that get very tricky for you.
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08-21-2012 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by validand notinuse
my preferred option would be to just flat the 3bet, i think your hand plays a lot better with money behind. i guess you could 4b/fold but you get flatted in at least one spot decently often and there are a whole lot of flops that get very tricky for you.

Yeah, quess this is fine?

$2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($504.50) 126bb
UTG+1 ($400) 100bb
CO ($1,144.45) 286bb
BTN ($980) 245bb
(SB) ($396) 99bb
BB ($1,129.28) 282bb

Pre-Flop: ($6, 6 players) jekku is SB 3 K K 3
UTG raises to $12, 1 fold, CO raises to $31.50, 1 fold, calls $29.50, 1 fold, UTG raises to $130, CO folds, calls $98.50

Flop: Q 2 8 ($295.50, 2 players)
checks, UTG bets $120, goes all-in $266, UTG calls $146
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08-21-2012 , 03:28 PM
depends on how you construct his 4bet range. If hes 4betting enough high card hands, then sure. If his 4bet range is heavily weighted towards, or comprised entirely of, AA, then no. Also worth noting that if he did have high card stuff like AKJT he'd prob be more likely to jam flop than bet small.
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08-25-2012 , 07:52 PM
    Poker Stars, $50/$100 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $2,900 (29 bb)
    BB: $15,945.75 (159.5 bb)
    MP: $14,847.06 (148.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): $15,197.74 (152 bb)
    BTN: $18,792.50 (187.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K 4 5 7
    MP folds, Hero raises to $250, BTN raises to $900, SB folds, BB calls $800, Hero calls $650

    Flop: ($2,750) 8 4 K (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1,850, BTN calls $1,850, BB raises to $9,500
    Hero ?



    BTN is a really though aggro reg, BB is loosy goosy pre and more on the passive side post.
    Now what?
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    08-25-2012 , 08:03 PM
    i think lead folding sucks, unless both are all in when it next comes too you.
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    08-25-2012 , 08:19 PM
    Even with reads I would just stick it in, obv not super happy about it though
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    08-25-2012 , 10:23 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
      Poker Stars, $50/$100 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $2,900 (29 bb)
      BB: $15,945.75 (159.5 bb)
      MP: $14,847.06 (148.5 bb)
      Hero (CO): $15,197.74 (152 bb)
      BTN: $18,792.50 (187.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K 4 5 7
      MP folds, Hero raises to $250, BTN raises to $900, SB folds, BB calls $800, Hero calls $650

      Flop: ($2,750) 8 4 K (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1,850, BTN calls $1,850, BB raises to $9,500
      Hero ?



      BTN is a really though aggro reg, BB is loosy goosy pre and more on the passive side post.
      Now what?


      ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
      820 trials (Exhaustive)
      board: 4K8
      Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
      Ks4s5h7h39.51% 3240
      AcKhJcQd60.49% 4960


      ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
      1,816,300 trials (Exhaustive)
      board: 4K8
      Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
      Ks4s5h7h24.73% 441,72914,946
      K8xx75.27% 1,359,62514,946


      Gutter on a FD board with no overpairs hmmm - given reads rather fold.
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      08-26-2012 , 02:45 AM
      sick hand odd_oddsen, very close spot i think...AKJ4 id fold, K754 w one bdfd, its pretty close, we have nice suckout equity IF we are behind.

      might be dumb, but close decisions i take depending on the stake. too big pot for my bankroll, fold, confortable, get in.
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      08-26-2012 , 07:08 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
        Poker Stars, $50/$100 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $2,900 (29 bb)
        BB: $15,945.75 (159.5 bb)
        MP: $14,847.06 (148.5 bb)
        Hero (CO): $15,197.74 (152 bb)
        BTN: $18,792.50 (187.9 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with K 4 5 7
        MP folds, Hero raises to $250, BTN raises to $900, SB folds, BB calls $800, Hero calls $650

        Flop: ($2,750) 8 4 K (3 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets $1,850, BTN calls $1,850, BB raises to $9,500
        Hero ?



        BTN is a really though aggro reg, BB is loosy goosy pre and more on the passive side post.
        Now what?
        If this was about stickin in 150bb @ 2/4 u prob would not care about the outcome and just know that's the way to go

        But know its 50/100 and u feel u dont want to risk getting it in bad


        My analyse of the hand is, play ur game oddsen - its def good enough
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        08-29-2012 , 09:24 AM
        SB is a huge fish. 3betting BB is an aggro reg. He 3bets alot, especially in situations like this when i open on the button and fishy SB calls.

        I thought about a 4bet, mainly beause i block some AAxx and KKxx.
        Do you stick it in here or is it overplayed?




        Finally decided to just call but was lost on the flop once again. Feels weak to call the 3bet just to setmine and muck it on a 774 flop.


        Hero (BTN): $611 (101.8 bb)
        BB: $600 (100 bb)
        SB: $606 (101 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q A K
        Hero raises to $18, SB calls $15, BB raises to $72, Hero calls $54, SB calls $54

        Flop: ($216) 7 4 4 (3 players)
        SB checks, BB bets $132, Hero ?
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        08-29-2012 , 11:43 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by urubu111
        sick hand odd_oddsen, very close spot i think...AKJ4 id fold, K754 w one bdfd, its pretty close, we have nice suckout equity IF we are behind.

        might be dumb, but close decisions i take depending on the stake. too big pot for my bankroll, fold, confortable, get in.
        Lol'd pretty damn hard and pretty sure I like urubu more and more with every post
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        08-29-2012 , 11:50 AM
        why that bet sizing and not close to pot? Are we ever bluffing here?
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        08-30-2012 , 12:23 PM
        Live $2-$5 game, and I lost $2300 in this hand. Tell me if I could have don't anything different.

        UTG1
        UTG2
        CO
        BTN
        SB (Villain - $2300)
        BB (Hero - $2500)

        Villain is quite aggro: about 66/33. Pretty bad postflop; tends to overvalue big pairs.

        Hero has 9 9 J Q
        UTG1 calls; UTG 2 calls; 2 folds; Villain raises to $25. Hero raises to $85; two folds; Villain raises to $265. Hero calls.

        Flop: 4 T K
        Villain pots to $540. Hero goes all in for $2000+. Villain instacalls. Villain has AAss, crushes me, and takes all my money.

        --I 3bet pre to play the aggro fish IP, with a decent hand. After he 4bets, I put him on AA 100%. His flop potbet means nothing; he would bet the same way with bare AA, no flush draw. So I shove. Just looks really sucky when I'm so crushed.
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        08-30-2012 , 12:49 PM
        pokerbot - seems super easy 4bpf. as played i call flop, fold to turn bet on diamond, bet hearts/straight cards/some other cards if chkd to.

        phunkphish - stack sizes of two limpers? if theyre as deep as you then i think 3bpf is semi bad, if theyre like 100x then i think it becomes better. after that hand plays itself.
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        09-05-2012 , 03:57 PM
        Live 5/5 with BTN $10 PLO

        Effective stacks $825 with Villain

        SB limp, BB limp, utg limps, Hero makes it $60 with AAQT

        BTN calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
        Pot $ 250

        Flop 669

        Checks to hero, hero bets $140, with intention of b/f, BTN calls, rest fold.

        BTN is a fish super loose pf, and pretty loose post flop, passive as well.

        Turn 2

        Pot $530 with $625 in stacks

        Hero pots?
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        09-05-2012 , 07:42 PM
        I'm going with it, obv not super happy but I think those kind of players lead or raise a 6 very often imo
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        09-06-2012 , 04:53 AM
        tough spot bc on one hand the button called with two people still behind him when you bet with what looks like a pretty strong range. on the other hand, the fact that you dont have the As means that given your description he might have a reasonable amount of nut fd combos, and the turn is the brickiest of bricks. one thing that occurs to me is that if hes the passive type of weak player, will he chk back a lot of his draws if chkd to? if he'll play his range totally face up to a check then it might be a better option than jamming.
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        09-06-2012 , 10:53 AM
        I dont bet that flop, but go with it on the turn if I did vs a fish. He will have draws enough.
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        09-06-2012 , 06:32 PM
        Thanks. I think turn shove is best after betting but agree with Trix that a flop check is better.
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        09-07-2012 , 07:02 AM
        Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

        CO: $214.27
        BTN: $400.00
        SB: $400.00
        Hero (BB): $467.44
        UTG: $406.00
        MP: $259.41

        Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with 7 K 8 K
        UTG raises to $14, 2 folds, BTN calls $14, SB calls $12, Hero calls $10

        Flop: ($56.00) 2 Q 3 (4 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $40, UTG folds, BTN folds, SB raises to $140, Hero calls $100

        Turn: ($336.00) Q (2 players)
        SB bets $246 all in, Hero calls $246

        River: ($828.00) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

        No real reads on villain. What is the best line on the flop? Def not 3bet/AI on the flop. Turn play?
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        09-07-2012 , 07:21 AM
        i feel like this is a spot where if you lead you should already know how you plan on reacting if you get raised. i prob fold turn, his flop range is pretty much strong semibluffs/queens and clubs/2pr+. he has to have the first category pretty often to compensate for the times he has the other two and you have two outs.
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        09-07-2012 , 07:37 AM
        had UTG or BTN raised I think I can find a fold on the flop. But with the SB being last to act + I have position on the turn where I can comfortably fold if he bets when the club hits, I dont think I can fold the flop.

        Since there are alot less 2p/sets in his range because of the board texture do you think I should be continuing on the turn?
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        09-07-2012 , 02:28 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by jayloo87
        had UTG or BTN raised I think I can find a fold on the flop. But with the SB being last to act + I have position on the turn where I can comfortably fold if he bets when the club hits, I dont think I can fold the flop.

        Since there are alot less 2p/sets in his range because of the board texture do you think I should be continuing on the turn?
        You fold if he leads a turn club? That sounds spewy to me. I wouldn't fold on a club; nor a Q or a straight card. So, seems like there is no reason to smooth call here.

        Just jam on the flop. If he has Q + bigger fd, you're currently ahead. If he has 2pair (or set), you have decent amount of outs.
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        09-07-2012 , 02:44 PM
        I'm either folding flop or jamming flop; there's not much money behind and I dont see any benefit to flatting. I think Id fold flop.

        ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
        8,573,920 trials (Exhaustive)
        board: 23q
        Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
        qq:65%,33:75%,456:cc,a45:cc,acc64.17% 5,499,6693,817
        kc7c8dks35.83% 3,070,4343,817
        And we dont have clarity on what turns we like.
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