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02-04-2012 , 03:10 PM
bet 1/4 to 1/3 of the pot in the first hand.
On the second hand it depends if you're 5betting just AAxx or other stuff aswell.
If you're just 5betting aaxx you have to pot imo otherwise 1/2 pot or even less should be good. I mean isildur is potting/c this with his whole range for example and I think it's a bad play.
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02-05-2012 , 12:13 AM
need inpenetrable bankroll at your stake, then just mash every hand pre and on flop..save the reevaluating for the turn ftw imo
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02-06-2012 , 12:21 PM
v is reg likes to 3bet me a lot but hud has him at 6% 3b he hesitates to get it in light and will pot control a lot of stuff this flop... i was b/f. definitely views me as spewy / laggy
whole line is fine? river is for value

[converted_hand][hand_history]Party, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11796182

BB: $554.79 (138.7 bb)
BTN: $914.91 (228.7 bb)
MP: $626.37 (156.6 bb)
UTG: $471 (117.8 bb)
SB: $219.27 (54.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $530.36 (132.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 J A J
2 folds, Hero raises to $14, BTN raises to $36, 2 folds, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($78) 4 T Q (2 players)
Hero bets $52, BTN calls $52

Turn: ($182) K (2 players)
Hero bets $132, BTN calls $132

River: ($446) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $310.36 and is all-in
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02-06-2012 , 12:24 PM
I like it.
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02-06-2012 , 12:49 PM
i think its fine. if you lose this pot itll be to some studpid 8764dd or similar
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02-06-2012 , 03:44 PM
i like an inducing river bet.if hes targeting you, i think a $50 river bet may induce a shove bluff from villian. very little value with river bet as played imo
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02-06-2012 , 07:38 PM
PokerStars Hand #75154735410: Tournament #559010009, $500+$30 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2012/02/06 18:35:36 ET
Table '559010009 10' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: moonwatch79 (5573 in chips)
Seat 3: dachboden (8449 in chips)
Seat 4: Reesy (2983 in chips)
Seat 5: Danny98765 (6610 in chips)
Seat 6: krzyeyeskila (10975 in chips)
krzyeyeskila: posts small blind 75
moonwatch79: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to krzyeyeskila [7s Jc Js Ac]
dachboden: folds
Reesy: folds
Danny98765: raises 200 to 350
krzyeyeskila:

Is this a standard flat? I can see cases for either. I havent 3 bet yet and theres hardly been any 3 betting going on. Not very familiar with plo tourneys
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02-06-2012 , 07:58 PM
io prefer flat so pot doesnt get out of control
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02-07-2012 , 11:25 AM
Kinda lost how to play these spots pre, villain is a 32/17 over 100 hands, snap 4 bets.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($658)
BB ($400)
UTG ($231)
UTG+1 ($485)
CO ($400)
Hero ($941)

Dealt to Hero A 6 K K

fold, UTG+1 calls $4, CO raises to $18, Hero raises to $64, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $202, fold, hero?
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02-07-2012 , 02:51 PM
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AsKsKd6h27.91% 166,2042,487
AA**72.09% 431,3092,487


http://propokertools.com/simulations...AA**&s=generic


i think villain has AA at least 80% of the time and ur equity and ur flopatility are aweful, since u can only stackoff on ~25% of flops

to get an idea if villains 4betting other hands, i think ur image and ur history with him is superimportant...
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02-07-2012 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doorbread
v is reg likes to 3bet me a lot but hud has him at 6% 3b he hesitates to get it in light and will pot control a lot of stuff this flop... i was b/f. definitely views me as spewy / laggy
whole line is fine? river is for value

[converted_hand][hand_history]Party, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11796182

BB: $554.79 (138.7 bb)
BTN: $914.91 (228.7 bb)
MP: $626.37 (156.6 bb)
UTG: $471 (117.8 bb)
SB: $219.27 (54.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $530.36 (132.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 J A J
2 folds, Hero raises to $14, BTN raises to $36, 2 folds, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($78) 4 T Q (2 players)
Hero bets $52, BTN calls $52

Turn: ($182) K (2 players)
Hero bets $132, BTN calls $132

River: ($446) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $310.36 and is all-in
I think he is more likely to make bad bluff when checked to (not v often) than hero you with worse (even less often) unless he thinks you do some absol. f nuts stuff on a regular basis
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02-07-2012 , 03:48 PM
too thin vs a reg who ive got basically no history with?

Poker Stars $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $1617.50
CO: $518.21
BTN: $1966.00
Hero (SB): $1000.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is SB with T Q Q T
1 fold, BTN raises to $30, Hero calls $25, 1 fold

Flop: ($70.00) 9 7 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $50.00, Hero raises to $145, BTN calls $95

Turn: ($360.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $240.00, BTN calls $240

River: ($840.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $585.00..?
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02-07-2012 , 03:51 PM
a few hands earlier this hand occured vs him btw

Poker Stars $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $2902.00
CO: $2622.33
BTN: $47.43
SB: $1372.00
Hero (BB): $1000.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 8 T 5 A
3 folds, SB raises to $30, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60.00) T 8 6 (2 players)
SB bets $40.00, Hero calls $40

Turn: ($140.00) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $120.00, Hero raises to $300, SB calls $180

River: ($740.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $630.00, SB calls $630

Final Pot: $2000.00
SB shows A 6 K 3
Hero shows 8 T 5 A
Hero wins $1997.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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02-07-2012 , 04:01 PM
standard, and differnt preflop dynamics fwiw
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02-07-2012 , 04:13 PM
thin imo
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02-07-2012 , 04:18 PM
urub you folding turn there? river? 9if u r villian)
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02-07-2012 , 06:15 PM
think he meant 1st hand which is the one im looing for advice on aswell, 2nd one was just to show that villain called me down kinda light a few mins earlier, at least considering we have no history
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02-07-2012 , 10:04 PM
would like a couple of opinions: 6max, if a decent reg is 3b you ~20% in position 100-150bb deep, do you 4b/fold/call:

7654ds
JT98ss
QQJ6ss
AKJ5ss
8899ds
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02-07-2012 , 10:34 PM
I 4b/call JT98ss
might even just fold QQJ6ss to the 3b, maybe 4b/fold it, definitely not 4b/calling it.
AKJ5ss I 4b/fold mostly (I think 4b/call has to be bad with this)
8899ds no idea, I've never really thought about 4betting these types of hands since they are pretty easy to play post but its an interesting idea, but in the past I mostly flat it.
7654ds if I'm tilted I probably 4b/call, if I'm not tilted I think I just flat the 3b. Been awhile since I've played cash seriously online though so could be a little rusty.

EDIT: If you are saying we are 4betting no matter what with all of the above hands, I would 4b/c JT98ss, 8899DS and 7654DS and I would 4b/fold the other 2.
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02-08-2012 , 01:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan5390
a few hands earlier this hand occured vs him btw

Poker Stars $1000.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $2902.00
CO: $2622.33
BTN: $47.43
SB: $1372.00
Hero (BB): $1000.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 8 T 5 A
3 folds, SB raises to $30, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60.00) T 8 6 (2 players)
SB bets $40.00, Hero calls $40

Turn: ($140.00) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $120.00, Hero raises to $300, SB calls $180

River: ($740.00) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $630.00, SB calls $630

Final Pot: $2000.00
SB shows A 6 K 3
Hero shows 8 T 5 A
Hero wins $1997.00
(Rake: $3.00)
Why can't PokerStars love me like this too?
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02-08-2012 , 02:15 AM
they like ppl from northern europe i guess

thoughts on 1st hand c-king?
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02-08-2012 , 08:09 AM
Would have check raised more ~176,
(as played) would bet more on the turn ~317,
Would have made it slightly smaller ~490 - 535.

Think we have different table images though, not sure if I would bet if I were Johan5390.
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02-09-2012 , 05:53 AM
2-5 Live, 8 handed.

UTG - Hero ($2000)
UTG1
MP1
MP2
CO
BTN - V1 ($2000)
SB
BB

Preflop: Hero has Q Q 9 4
Hero calls $5; 2 folds; CO raises to $25; V1 calls; SB folds; BB calls

Flop ($100, 4 players): K 8 3

3 checks; V1 bets $100. BB folds. Hero folds, CO folds.

Reads: V1 is good, nitty preflop. Capable of potstealing in position. Sizing is irrelevant as in live games, most players only use PSBs. Hero's image is good/tricky. Unconcerned about CO, as he should be betting his own hand most of the time here.

Upon further thought, I think I should have c/r/f to $260.
If he smooth calls after I raise, I would probably just check all non-Q turns and give up. Seems really weak, but I think this line is probably best.
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02-09-2012 , 01:30 PM
In QQ94 ds hand, line is too weak for sure. Line is opponent specific. I fold pf btw or raise, limping is worst.

My hand:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB)
SB ($659)
BB ($1,158)
UTG ($705)
UTG+1 ($110)
CO ($400)
Hero ($1,301)

CO posts $4

Dealt to Hero 7 7 K K

fold, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to $18, fold, BB calls $14, CO calls $14

FLOP ($56) 2 Q 8

BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $42, BB folds, CO calls $42

TURN ($140) 2 Q 8 6

CO checks, Hero bets $105, CO calls $105

RIVER ($350) 2 Q 8 6 A

CO bets $235 (AI), Hero ?
Note says that villain bluffs rivers, but more on flushes straights etc. Villain is fishy and modestly aggro at times.
I figure he has to think I'm going to bluff catch a lot here, so if he thinks I will call, I should...
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02-09-2012 , 04:31 PM
Not sure how you can say folding QQ94ds pre is better than limping. I don't raise PF because in a live game, I still expect to get 3 or 4 callers, and QQ94ds isn't a great hand multiway OOP.


In your hand, I would be very tempted to hero call. Any two-pair should push turn; a lot of flush draws (eg nfd) would push on the turn. So we only have to calculate chances he rivered 2 pair. Seems more likely he has one pair gutshot on the flop/turn, and the Ace shouldn't pair him too often.
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