***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread***
01-10-2014
, 12:48 PM
01-10-2014
, 01:26 PM
nope 
I just really wanted it to be real
I just really wanted it to be real
01-10-2014
, 03:06 PM
Quote:
Very interesting hand, at least significantly more so than the live PLO hands that get posted these days.
lautie made a mistake only in that he didn't realize Maurice was going to make a massive mistake on the river and make a very light (read: bad) value shove (when he thinks he is bluffing) given that there are no hands he is actually targeting to get value from (lautie would need to make a call with like K
KT5 for it to be good for value). The only purpose of shoving would be to specifically fold out T8 or 88 or check/decide becomes the obvious play. Maurice should know what type of player he is up against, lautie is what I would classify as a "big call" player and would have no problem always making the call with T8+ with no blockers which means by shoving Maurice is either picking up the pot 100% of the time he has the best hand or getting stacked 100% of the time he doesn't as there are no hands in the middle ground. T6 has way too much SD value to ever be shoving here with the intentions to fold out better, I think that vs the player in question actually all 2p combos have both too much SD value and too little FE vs better to be bluff shoving, I think the absolute best "made hand" I would ever find myself bluffing with here is QQ** and hands like QJT9 being mandatory shoves.
If Maurice is c/fs and some straight cards (presuming he doesn't have 2p himself, but more weighted towards 1p hands with or without blockers) lautie is making a huge mistake by folding turn, if Maurice is planning to bluff shove diamonds 
and those low straight cards himself, lautie's play is absolutely crazy as he only wins if he makes the best hand which he only does 15% and even if he stacks Maurice every time on the 7 or 8, hes obviously not getting the correct price to peel the turn.
Intuitively I would be leaning towards thinking Maurice thought he only had AA, but I'm going to give him a little more credit than that.
lautie made a mistake only in that he didn't realize Maurice was going to make a massive mistake on the river and make a very light (read: bad) value shove (when he thinks he is bluffing) given that there are no hands he is actually targeting to get value from (lautie would need to make a call with like K
KT5 for it to be good for value). The only purpose of shoving would be to specifically fold out T8 or 88 or check/decide becomes the obvious play. Maurice should know what type of player he is up against, lautie is what I would classify as a "big call" player and would have no problem always making the call with T8+ with no blockers which means by shoving Maurice is either picking up the pot 100% of the time he has the best hand or getting stacked 100% of the time he doesn't as there are no hands in the middle ground. T6 has way too much SD value to ever be shoving here with the intentions to fold out better, I think that vs the player in question actually all 2p combos have both too much SD value and too little FE vs better to be bluff shoving, I think the absolute best "made hand" I would ever find myself bluffing with here is QQ** and hands like QJT9 being mandatory shoves.If Maurice is c/f
s and some straight cards (presuming he doesn't have 2p himself, but more weighted towards 1p hands with or without blockers) lautie is making a huge mistake by folding turn, if Maurice is planning to bluff shove diamonds and those low straight cards himself, lautie's play is absolutely crazy as he only wins if he makes the best hand which he only does 15% and even if he stacks Maurice every time on the 7 or 8, hes obviously not getting the correct price to peel the turn.Intuitively I would be leaning towards thinking Maurice thought he only had AA, but I'm going to give him a little more credit than that.
01-10-2014
, 06:27 PM
Quote:
Very interesting hand, at least significantly more so than the live PLO hands that get posted these days.
lautie made a mistake only in that he didn't realize Maurice was going to make a massive mistake on the river and make a very light (read: bad) value shove (when he thinks he is bluffing) given that there are no hands he is actually targeting to get value from (lautie would need to make a call with like K KT5 for it to be good for value). The only purpose of shoving would be to specifically fold out T8 or 88 or check/decide becomes the obvious play. Maurice should know what type of player he is up against, lautie is what I would classify as a "big call" player and would have no problem always making the call with T8+ with no blockers which means by shoving Maurice is either picking up the pot 100% of the time he has the best hand or getting stacked 100% of the time he doesn't as there are no hands in the middle ground. T6 has way too much SD value to ever be shoving here with the intentions to fold out better, I think that vs the player in question actually all 2p combos have both too much SD value and too little FE vs better to be bluff shoving, I think the absolute best "made hand" I would ever find myself bluffing with here is QQ** and hands like QJT9 being mandatory shoves.
If Maurice is c/fs and some straight cards (presuming he doesn't have 2p himself, but more weighted towards 1p hands with or without blockers) lautie is making a huge mistake by folding turn, if Maurice is planning to bluff shove diamonds and those low straight cards himself, lautie's play is absolutely crazy as he only wins if he makes the best hand which he only does 15% and even if he stacks Maurice every time on the 7 or 8, hes obviously not getting the correct price to peel the turn.
Intuitively I would be leaning towards thinking Maurice thought he only had AA, but I'm going to give him a little more credit than that.
lautie made a mistake only in that he didn't realize Maurice was going to make a massive mistake on the river and make a very light (read: bad) value shove (when he thinks he is bluffing) given that there are no hands he is actually targeting to get value from (lautie would need to make a call with like K
KT5 for it to be good for value). The only purpose of shoving would be to specifically fold out T8 or 88 or check/decide becomes the obvious play. Maurice should know what type of player he is up against, lautie is what I would classify as a "big call" player and would have no problem always making the call with T8+ with no blockers which means by shoving Maurice is either picking up the pot 100% of the time he has the best hand or getting stacked 100% of the time he doesn't as there are no hands in the middle ground. T6 has way too much SD value to ever be shoving here with the intentions to fold out better, I think that vs the player in question actually all 2p combos have both too much SD value and too little FE vs better to be bluff shoving, I think the absolute best "made hand" I would ever find myself bluffing with here is QQ** and hands like QJT9 being mandatory shoves.If Maurice is c/f
s and some straight cards (presuming he doesn't have 2p himself, but more weighted towards 1p hands with or without blockers) lautie is making a huge mistake by folding turn, if Maurice is planning to bluff shove diamonds and those low straight cards himself, lautie's play is absolutely crazy as he only wins if he makes the best hand which he only does 15% and even if he stacks Maurice every time on the 7 or 8, hes obviously not getting the correct price to peel the turn.Intuitively I would be leaning towards thinking Maurice thought he only had AA, but I'm going to give him a little more credit than that.
01-15-2014
, 09:57 AM
01-15-2014
, 02:28 PM
How to get in 700BB 2way against non-aces of the master of disaster (Tiltlikeme) :
Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22325651
BTN: $3,803.48 (760.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $3,400.09 (680 bb)
BB: $535.48 (107.1 bb)
UTG: $552.20 (110.4 bb)
MP: $1,475.63 (295.1 bb)
CO: $505 (101 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A
7 A
4
3 folds, BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $50, BB raises to $165, BTN calls $150, Hero raises to $350, BB raises to $535.48 and is all-in, BTN calls $370.48, Hero raises to $2,141.92, BTN raises to $3,803.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $1,258.17 and is all-in
Flop: ($7,335.66) Q
T 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($7,335.66) 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($7,335.66) 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22325651
BTN: $3,803.48 (760.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $3,400.09 (680 bb)
BB: $535.48 (107.1 bb)
UTG: $552.20 (110.4 bb)
MP: $1,475.63 (295.1 bb)
CO: $505 (101 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A
7 A 43 folds, BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $50, BB raises to $165, BTN calls $150, Hero raises to $350, BB raises to $535.48 and is all-in, BTN calls $370.48, Hero raises to $2,141.92, BTN raises to $3,803.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $1,258.17 and is all-in
Flop: ($7,335.66) Q
T 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)Turn: ($7,335.66) 5
(3 players, 3 are all-in)River: ($7,335.66) 9
(3 players, 3 are all-in)Spoiler:
01-15-2014
, 02:47 PM
01-15-2014
, 02:51 PM
01-15-2014
, 03:12 PM
01-15-2014
, 03:22 PM
2 day adrenaline
i am happy to see you back
over/under 50/100 zoom is probably a month
once i put that initial 500 in there is probably no chance I fold for the extra either, if I was awake 2 days I probably repot after BB goes all in
i am happy to see you back
over/under 50/100 zoom is probably a month
once i put that initial 500 in there is probably no chance I fold for the extra either, if I was awake 2 days I probably repot after BB goes all in
01-15-2014
, 04:13 PM
