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11-25-2011 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
was thinking about making a $0-$100k prob bet in one year... And was looking for "start" odds to set... Does 1 to 5 seem right? or is that to big in my favor? What do you think?
Wouldn't you need a ton of action for this to be more profitable than what you win at your regular stakes ?

Also, is it with or without rakeback ? (Has to be without but I want to make sure)

EDIT : And yeah, as mentionned previously, people usually don't like to escrow money for that long.
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11-25-2011 , 01:07 PM
I payed you at 3-6 urubu111 and donated to you :-(
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11-25-2011 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
my head says i am 10/20reg. my heart says i am 200/400 reg.

but my bankroll says i am just 2/4 reg
lol n1
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11-25-2011 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kojika
Wouldn't you need a ton of action for this to be more profitable than what you win at your regular stakes ?

Also, is it with or without rakeback ? (Has to be without but I want to make sure)

EDIT : And yeah, as mentionned previously, people usually don't like to escrow money for that long.
My understanding was it was with rakeback since he specifically mentioned he would be starting as SNE. Without rakeback I don't see how this would have any significance.
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11-25-2011 , 01:40 PM
I was thinking about putting in about $30-40k on my own side if I get action obviosuly with 1 to ~5 (can discuss this).

And yes I know this is done before (urubu have done it for example), but people have ran 100M sprint under 10 seconds before, but its still pretty damn hard

The only reason I brought the propbet up in this thread, is because I want to hear if "1 to 5" seems reasonable odds to set, so people will give me action. If this odds in your opinion is not reasonable I will not go offical with this bet/challenge.

And fyi if I will do this challenge I will do it with strict bankroll management rules, something like this, which will not enable me to take "shots":

$0.01/0.02 I can play with whatever BR I want.
MTTs: 100 BI's
SNGS: 50 BI's
Bankroll < $20 I can manage however I want.

Cash-Games: $0.02/0.05 - $0.10-0.25 : 30 BIs
$0.25-0.50 - $1-2 : 50 BIs
$2-4 - $3-6 : 80 BIs

The hard part is obiosuly to go from $0 to $10+, which can take from a couple of days to a 5-6 months.

And yes, I can see that people dont want to have money escrowed/locked up for a so long time
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11-25-2011 , 01:52 PM
yes I will do it with rakeback (SNE rakeback with 0 FPPS to start) until I loose SNE status.
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11-25-2011 , 02:18 PM
    On Game, $5/$5 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: $3,088 (617.6 bb)
    BTN: $1,458 (291.6 bb)
    SB: $593.50 (118.7 bb)
    BB: $1,308.50 (261.7 bb)
    UTG: $500 (100 bb)
    Hero (MP): $562 (112.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J Q A Q
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $15, CO folds, BTN calls $15, 2 folds

    Flop: ($40) 6 A Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $30, BTN calls $30

    Turn: ($100) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $75, BTN calls $75

    River: ($250) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $140, BTN calls $140

    Spoiler:
    Results: $530 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: 6 A Q J K
    BTN showed 6 K Q T and won $527 ($267 net)
    Hero showed J Q A Q and lost (-$260 net)


    And this guy is some kind of reg.
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    11-25-2011 , 02:22 PM
    How long did the scammer chris fergusen use from 0 too 10k?
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    11-25-2011 , 03:54 PM
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    Originally Posted by Trollbingen
    How long did the scammer chris fergusen use from 0 too 10k?
    16 months IIRC
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    11-25-2011 , 05:03 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by urubu111
    my head says i am 10/20reg. my heart says i am 200/400 reg.

    but my bankroll says i am just 2/4 reg
    You are a legend, sir.
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    11-25-2011 , 06:06 PM
    11-25-2011 , 10:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OMGKaraScott
      On Game, $5/$5 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      CO: $3,088 (617.6 bb)
      BTN: $1,458 (291.6 bb)
      SB: $593.50 (118.7 bb)
      BB: $1,308.50 (261.7 bb)
      UTG: $500 (100 bb)
      Hero (MP): $562 (112.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with J Q A Q
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $15, CO folds, BTN calls $15, 2 folds

      Flop: ($40) 6 A Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $30, BTN calls $30

      Turn: ($100) J (2 players)
      Hero bets $75, BTN calls $75

      River: ($250) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $140, BTN calls $140

      Spoiler:
      Results: $530 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 6 A Q J K
      BTN showed 6 K Q T and won $527 ($267 net)
      Hero showed J Q A Q and lost (-$260 net)


      And this guy is some kind of reg.
      His play is standard on every street, though preflop is often a 3bet. Did I just blow your mind?
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      11-25-2011 , 10:46 PM
      just calling river is atrocious he has the nuts with 2 missed FDs
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      11-25-2011 , 10:55 PM
      pre and river not standard at all in my book
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      11-25-2011 , 11:01 PM
      turn doesn't seem standard either with those stack sizes
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      11-25-2011 , 11:14 PM
      ok i mean play is debatable pre turn and river but it's certainly not bad and just flatting the river can be correct a lot of the time if most of the villains in your particular playing pool *never* call a raise with less than the nuts and you think there's a lot of value to seeing your opponents hand.
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      11-25-2011 , 11:49 PM
      he's not calling anyway so don't bother raising w the nuts......ok.
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      11-25-2011 , 11:52 PM
      so why do you want someone get to see your hand for free wazz?

      it doesn't matter if they call or not imo.
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      11-26-2011 , 01:13 AM
      Pre, flop, and turn all standard. River is a raise ofc.
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      11-26-2011 , 01:37 AM
      depending on rake structure calling river is super std...plus he's not giving up much EV....no1 ever hero calls in 4 broadway boards in 6m...id love to see one of you pull up a HH of someone bet/calling on a 4broadway board at 2-4 or above w/o it.

      edit: a reg at least...guy is a reg...maybe some fish did obv.
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      11-26-2011 , 01:39 AM
      This doesn't belong anywhere, but I feel like it's my obligation to share it.

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      11-26-2011 , 01:47 AM
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      Originally Posted by urubu111
      ya i did, but i started w/ 100k or 150k FPP, which helps a ton. after 1day 24tabling FPP sats i had 1,5k or something close to that in my account. 28days after this i was 1tabling 500/1k plo hu. obv all roll at table, but still huge brag imo. 30days after i started 24tabling FPP i had 110k.

      i am pretty sure the hardest part about this challenge is the start. when you already have 5k roll, you have 50buy ins to grind 0.50/1 and someone who beat mid stakes like odds_odsen will find very easy turn 5k into 100k in couple months.

      but will be veryhard go from 0 to $1k. 1st 1k will be the real challenge. after that 20tabling plo5 w/ 20ptbb will be easy, then plo10 and all stakes are easy for someone who beat mid stakes.

      i also sent you $10

      sorry just wanted to get some credit
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      11-26-2011 , 08:22 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by wazz
      ok i mean play is debatable pre turn and river but it's certainly not bad and just flatting the river can be correct a lot of the time if most of the villains in your particular playing pool *never* call a raise with less than the nuts and you think there's a lot of value to seeing your opponents hand.
      So whenever you raise here you're bluffing?
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      11-26-2011 , 10:01 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by wazz
      His play is standard on every street, though preflop is often a 3bet. Did I just blow your mind?
      Yeah, but most likely not the way you think.
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      11-26-2011 , 11:50 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by MauriceSch
      So whenever you raise here you're bluffing?
      I assume you mean 'whenever you raise here you're value-betting' or the equivalent.

      Basically, yeah.
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