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10-07-2009 , 08:25 AM

jj12

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Villain is super aggro postflop, 3bets 50% of his hands. He is a bit stationy but not overly so. This c/c turn donk river line. I don't think he is doing it with a flush. And I don't think he is floating the turn. Can we fold the boat here even vs this guy?

$2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (SB) ($475)
BB ($1,048.10)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 2 players) Hero is SB Q

Hero raises to $8, BB raises to $24, Hero calls $16

Flop: 3

($48, 2 players)
BB bets $32, Hero calls $32

Turn: 2

($112, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $88, BB calls $88

River: 9

($288, 2 players)
BB bets $287.50

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10-07-2009 , 09:09 AM

Doorbread

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If he doesn't do this with a flush ever, then yeah, but I don't want to...also wtf @ your flat.

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10-07-2009 , 01:16 PM

JROSEALM

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i think ur line is legit, i'd rather raise flop but it's prob neutral, i'd fold river

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10-07-2009 , 01:30 PM

rtk

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i would shove river vs someone as aggro as u say post flop

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10-07-2009 , 02:45 PM

cts

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id def shove

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10-07-2009 , 03:07 PM

Vermillion

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ehhh as much as i'd like to fold here, i don't think i do it vs. this guy tbh

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10-07-2009 , 06:07 PM

jj12

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id post results, he had 9945. Usually in NL, when they pot randomly they have the hand the vast majority. Dunno about omaha.

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10-08-2009 , 02:25 AM

iggymcfly

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Shoving the river is beyond awful. The only thing we can possibly be beating is a bluff. No way a flush pots the river after check/calling the turn. It sucks that the results came out already, but when I first read results, I didn't see they'd boated up and I was actually ready to defend folding, even thinking he'd turned a straight into a bluff.

It's just that on this exact board texture, no one's ever bluffing. The number of players capable of turning trips into a bluff here is probably <5%, people just don't do it; and he's never going to have less than trips when he check/calls the turn. It just doesn't make any sense.

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10-08-2009 , 11:04 AM

rtk

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shoving really not that bad its 50 or something more. your considering vs a mega monkey? betting 10-15 more bbs in a pot so big is not awful bad.

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10-09-2009 , 06:12 AM

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krmont22

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folding is awful. i think shoving is probably slightly winning play.

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10-09-2009 , 08:58 AM

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Lash Laroux

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly

yeah but if hes a super monkey he might do this with a flush

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10-09-2009 , 02:51 PM

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cts

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hes a mega monkey with 50% 3bet and you have a boat on this board, it's only 50 more for him to call, it's a shove.

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10-12-2009 , 11:46 AM

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ActionFreak

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You posted results too soon on this one. I think I like shove too.. he is not folding anything for 50 dollars more. If you don't think your hand can be good then you should just fold but that is obv ridiculous. The way the hand played out hero could have lots of weak hands by the river... weak flushes, trips, over pairs.

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10-12-2009 , 11:49 AM

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ActionFreak

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Originally Posted by Lash Laroux

yeah but if hes a super monkey he might do this with a flush

I dont think this is that monkeyish with his image. If I had that image and got to the river like that with the nut flush... I would bet it too.

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10-13-2009 , 03:23 PM

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omahalover

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its a call or a shove never folding here

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10-13-2009 , 04:57 PM

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grizy

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Shove.

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