Was I correct to fold after these raises?

Player#4388 Small Blind 0.05
Hero Big Blind 0.1
Hero Was dealt JcJhAh5d
Player#3186 Was dealt
Player#5090 Was dealt
Player#3100 Was dealt
Player#1613 Was dealt
Player#4388 Was dealt
Player#3186 Call 0.1
Player#5090 Raise 0.45
Player#3100 Fold
Player#1613 Call 0.45
Player#4388 Call 0.4
hero Call 0.35
Player#3186 Call 0.35


FLOP 9h8h6c
Player#4388 Bet 2.25
hero Call 2.25
Player#3186 Call 2.25
Player#5090 Fold
Player#1613 Raise 9.4
Player#4388 Raise 18.52
hero Fold
Player#3186 Call 4


TURN 9h8h6c4h

My ace high flush would have won. The guy who did win this hand had a king high flush.

considering the flop action I think you can assume that your opponents holdings will also contain hearts, especially multiway. i like to call this 'implied removal.' because there will be some hearts in their ranges, this reduces the probability that your NFD will arrive on future streets. While the flush did get there this time, in the majority of these situations the flush will not. Multiway there are probably some sets in your opponents ranges, and if the board pairs the flush isnt worth much.

because the pot was becoming so bloated right away, you can also assume that you would have had to commit stacks to keep chasing that draw if it didnt hit on the turn.

while your jacks do block the top end straight, i think straights like 107XX and 57XX are also in your opponents ranges

i think you made a good fold, and while the dude with the K high FD won it this time he could have just as easily lost a buy in, and if he does this ten times w naked K-high-FD he will probably lose 6-7. But you didnt say what his other cards were so its hard to say

In PLO these multiway situations are extremely treacherous. If your going three or four ways to the flop you are up against such a strong combined range.

Thanks that what I thought. Figured straight, set were out there - if the board paired my flush would be beaten by a FH.

Nah that is wrong and this is a stack-off after you put in the 2.25.

Also with this HH format, you should manually add stack sizes + positions. That was tough to parse.

Some of the better players correct me please, this is what I think, but I'm just a micro fish:
1) We shouldn't call the first bet with the naked flushdraw, because HU we don't have the equity to call and there are players to act behind us.
2) Once it gets raised behind us and is likely to go all-in 3+way, we have to stack off, because multiway we have the equity to do so (coming from dominated draws, like small flushdraws).

Actually we would have the equity to call, since only a set has > 33% equity against us, and even then just barely, (we are 37% against T7), but equity is less important when you are drawing, and there is another street to come, what you want to look at is outs vs pot odds. In general having players left to act is not good for draws (as you point out), because they can raise and thus force you to forfeit your call. But with the nut flush draw you don't mind company so it is a bit of a mixed bag.

Without knowing stack sizes it is difficult to advise how to proceed. Assuming everyone has around $10 then I prefer a flop fold. You are only getting 2:1 but are about 4:1 or 5:1 against hitting. So you just don't have the right pot odds to make the call.

Maybe equity is the wrong word. (This might be, what you are talking about).

I was under the assumption, that we need ~ 4:1 with the naked flushdraw, assuming our opponent is likely to bet the turn aswell. If we were all-in on the flop, things would be different.

Isn't that the actual difference here?
We can't call one bet on the flop with just 9 outs, but we will always have enough to be all-in 4way and should also have enough for an all-in 3way.

Sorry for asking so basic stuff.

IMO stack sizes And SPR really matter here.

If you can get the SPR to around 1 I'd raise pot on the flop because you're drawing to the nuts and have nice blockers to the str8.

That is what I said.

consider the reverse implied odds, if his flush doesn't come it on the turn he is going to have to commit his stack if he wants to continue, and by then his odds wont justify another call

again, there are are definitely going to be other hearts/lower FD's in his opponents hands (which there were), which reduces his odds of completing the draw even more

he blocks the top end straight, but his opponents probably already have straights

in my opinion, since this hand is multiway the removal effect (of hearts) and the fact that hero would have had to commit basically everything to see this hand through makes this a clear fold.

but obviously i could be wrong, this situation is fairly ambiguous and if hero had called i wouldn't consider that a big mistake

in this case i think hero made a good disciplined fold

I've made plenty of folds in this situation because of exactly what you've described here. However if OP pots it on the flop before the people behind him act the action probably would have been different (i.e. no raise and no re-raise). Holding 2 vs 1 Jack is a big deal no?

thats a great point, hero could have shoved on the flop and that might've been the best line here

potting probably would have gotten at least one fold and cleared up some equity

and also those two jacks could be even more useful with a shove, since he blocks the top end straight and opponents 57xx or maybe even 107xx might think he has a higher wrap + he has additional outs to spike a set against hands like 88xx or 99xx