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03-12-2012 , 01:34 PM
Hi,

Anybody knows (how to calculate) the odds of us flopping a flush draw and villain flopping a (better) flush draw in the same time?

i.e. I open the button with JJ8s6s and get 3Bet by a 12 % range. What are the odds villain has a better flushdraw when my flushdraw comes.

Whenever I flop a smallish flushdraw I tend to call more than push even if I have something aside. I want to get a better feeling for how fast I can play these hands.

Thanks.
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03-12-2012 , 08:02 PM
Total number of combos in 12% of hands 32466 of those there are 10371 combos with spade flush draws

Of those 10371 combos there are 9975 combos with a 9hi fd or better which leaves 396 hands with worse fds(6% have a 7hi or worse fd)

The odds of you both flopping a fd with him at 12% and you with jj8s6s is only 2.8%


Did another pql statement where I require jj8s6s to have a four flush on the flop, and then asked odds oracle how often you both have a fd and got 24%



Code:
select count(handshaving(fourFlush,flop) = 2) /* How often 2 players have a four flush on the flop */ as COUNT8 
from game='omahahi', syntax='Generic',
     PLAYER_1='12%',
     PLAYER_2='jhjc8s6s'
where (  fourFlush(PLAYER_2,flop)) /* (  PLAYER_2 have a four flush on the flop) */
I'm sure you can play around with these numbers some more, but here are the basics of it.
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