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11-07-2008 , 10:29 PM
$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

can i ever fold this? haven't played many hands w/ villain, seems like a tag. only played about 20 hands and he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. i think he might be trying to push me off an over pair? or i'm way behind. but i have 3 pr. are you ever folding? does he have aces and picked up the fl draw on the turn? (YES i know PRe is BAD)

Stacks:
UTG ($282.60)
Hero ($351.45)
CO ($77.00)
BTN ($221.70)
SB ($198.00)
BB ($192.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Q J 2 T
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: 4 T 2 ($30, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, 1 fold, BTN calls $24, SB folds

Turn: J ($78, 2 players)
Hero bets $64, BTN goes all-in $190.70
hero?
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11-07-2008 , 10:37 PM
call
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11-08-2008 , 12:55 AM
call
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11-08-2008 , 01:54 AM
No you can't fold. Get er in.

OH AND FOLD PREFLOP JESUS CHRIST.
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11-08-2008 , 05:50 PM
When you rs pre and hit this hand hard, don't fold.
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11-08-2008 , 06:38 PM
Danglers are not very good. In fact, they're terrible. I wouldn't play this hand. Anyway, I would call but it's close. I think he has JTXX a lot here.
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11-08-2008 , 09:36 PM
Doesn't seem like it is a no brainer call to me. Call and hope to be tied ? Dry flop, you seem to be playing agg. , he prob has 1010xx.
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11-08-2008 , 09:50 PM
only a ****** with an IQ of sarah palin would fold
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11-08-2008 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
OH AND FOLD PREFLOP JESUS CHRIST.
QFT

As for villain ranges, T42 rainbow can be peeled by lots of 1p +backdoor stuff, and the Jh making a twoflush and a twostraight means lots of draws as well. Obv, dry board can mean a slowplayed set as well, but you need to get the money in here.
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11-08-2008 , 10:07 PM
*g*

I was going to say fold but youre 57:42 against a 13card wrap with a flush draw. So all you really have to worry about is 44xx and even then you have outs. So I say call.
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11-08-2008 , 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by popoko42
only a ****** with an IQ of sarah palin would fold
I never thought of it that way, you make some very good points.
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11-08-2008 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
I never thought of it that way, you make some very good points.
thx.
in all seriousness you should call and expect to have > than or = to 50% equity here at least 40% of the time. with the pot odds, easy, easy call

and if you call and win, you can spread the wealth around from him to you!
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11-08-2008 , 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by popoko42
thx.
in all seriousness you should call and expect to have > than or = to 50% equity here at least 40% of the time. with the pot odds, easy, easy call

and if you call and win, you can spread the wealth around from him to you!
You are going to put another 200 bucks in not even getting 2 to1 when according to your random numbers 60% of the time you are dominated and 40% you are even money. What type of hands do you think he is taking this line with that you are ever much better than 50/50 ?
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11-08-2008 , 10:43 PM
its another 126 bucks, not another 200. we're getting better than 2 to 1. i pulled those previous % estimates right out of my a$$ but this is still a simple call
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11-08-2008 , 10:49 PM
126 my bad, getting better than 2.5/1 still think you r burning money vs unknown who seems tight
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11-08-2008 , 10:52 PM
call, and its not even close. Although i doubt this hand even happen...like all the others you posted!
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11-08-2008 , 11:14 PM
Seems like everyone thinks this is a no brainer insta call. Ignoring preflop do you like the way the hand was played ? I think inflating a pot with a hand like this is only going to increase the swings in PLO.
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11-08-2008 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chinaski101
call, and its not even close. Although i doubt this hand even happen...like all the others you posted!
i'm thinking of a good one right now.... hmmmm maybe a 3way w/ royal vs str fl vs quads, yeah that sounds good.

i think he thinks i have aces or kings. why so much on the turn? maybe trying to push me off an over pair. my numbers are 29/16. he may have the same hand? don't think 44xx makes up any part of his range. at the time the turn shove just felt weird, i was pretty surprised. i'm guessing he must have picked up a fl draw on the turn, so he has a marginal made hand and fl draw. the other piece was that i didn't see any aggression since it 's been about 20hands total- except for raising on the btn or cutoff and Cbetting the flop and taking it down. thoughts?
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