Again, apologies, Sportsbook's HH format sucks balls etc.

Hand #1384012359000591: Los Angeles (6-max) 12359
Seat 1: 020597 (66.50 in chips)
Seat 2: JRH6660 (105.85 in chips)
Seat 3: jaitzy (34.55 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO (248.55 in chips)
Seat 9: headiefunk (61.75 in chips)
Seat 10: q8suited (171.48 in chips)
jaitzy: posts small blind $0.50
HERO: posts big blind $1
Dealt to HERO [ Kc 4d Kd Ac ]
headiefunk: folds
q8suited: calls
020597: calls
JRH6660: calls
jaitzy: calls
HERO: raises to $6
q8suited: calls
020597: folds
JRH6660: calls
jaitzy: folds
*** FLOP *** [ Jd 5h Qc ]
HERO: bets $13
q8suited: calls
JRH6660: folds
*** TURN *** [ Qd ]
HERO: checks
q8suited: bets $23
HERO: ?

Villain is one of those guys who fancies himself a good player but really isn't. Likes to talk at the table and tell people why they should/shouldn't have called, cries when he loses 60/40s -- you know the deal. He will peel almost any flop with just about anything and tends to play straightforward when he makes his hand. Has a couple of moves in his bag but they're very obvious to me since I've played with him a decent amount. He views me as bad because my style of play is very frustrating to him.

My feeling is that he's such a straightforward player is that if he had a made hand on the flop, he would have raised. I don't fear a set, I don't fear top 2, top and bottom and bottom two he would probably just fold. I feel like the queen pairing the board is actually a good card for me. When he leads the turn for 1/2 pot, what's your turn play given the read of this player? And what's your line on on what river cards?

Errr, push him off his hand? It kind of depends on what he think of you... Does he think you bluff a lot? If he thinks your a descend player and he hasnt seen you pull off huge bluffs you might even let him fold 55xx here... I would raisy daisy i guess

I'd fold. Its likely you are drawing very slim and even if you arn't and hes bluffing/semibluffing you still have to fade a draw and/or call a bet on the river as well since he seems like the type that could fire again.

I just felt like I had a good enough read on his bet sizing that it turned a spot where I usually fold into a call on the turn and then evaluate river. It's not something I'd do all the time and I probably would fold vs. an unknown player for the reasons you stated.

Here's the result:

*** TURN *** [ Qd ]
HERO: checks
q8suited: bets $23
HERO: calls
*** RIVER *** [ 8h ]
HERO: checks
q8suited: bets $25
HERO: calls
*** SHOW DOWN ***
q8suited: shows [ 8d Kh 9s 7h ] (Two Pairs, Queens and Eights )
HERO: shows [ Kc 4d Kd Ac ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Queens )
HERO wins $139 with Two Pairs, Kings and Queens

q8suited: how the **** did you call that
q8suited: omg
q8suited: thats terrible
q8suited: holy s**t
q8suited: lol
q8suited: you only had a pair of a's
q8suited: lol
q8suited: ****ing sloppy ass call
q8suited: only 100 hands beat you
q8suited: just a joke of a call

Are you going into the river planning on calling all bets if its a blank? What cards are you calling and what cards are you folding...and for how much? Call $25 here but fold for $80? etc.

This particular player had a pretty reliable bet sizing tell so calling $23 on the turn wasn't too difficult. I felt that given my history with him, he would have checked the board pairing turn card if he just had the 9T straight draw, looking to make his hand on the river and bet it for value. When this player bets the turn for 1/2 pot, his range is highly polarized between monsters and outright bluffs. So given my earlier assessment of his flop play combined with his bet sizing tell on the turn, I was able to deduce that he didn't have a hand better than an overpair.

The river is interesting. I think what I do here is very different between a player I have good reads on and an unknown. Against this player, my thought process is I can count on the kings being a lock, ten is probably good, and the backdoor diamonds I picked up on the turn being good on the river. On this board:

Good cards: 2-7, T, Q, K, any diamond
Good card against this player, worse against unknown: 8
Questionable cards: 9, A

So there are more good rivers than bad for my hand, in my estimation. I won't have a tough decision against him on very many of them given my read of the player and his overall ranges.

Against an unknown I might give more credit to an actual made FH and fold for a big bet -- but against q8suited, it's obviously more heroic but I'm reasonably sure I'd still c/c most river blanks.

err, somehow I missed that you picked up the diamond draw on the turn. That kinda changes this a little bit...but still not much.

In either case, this is a spot where you kinda have to make your mind up on the turn and usually should already know what you'll be doing on all the rivers. Way to stick with your read.

Yeah, looks good only because you've got the draws fairly well covered. A king gives you a full house, a ten gives you a straight, you have K-hi diamond draw, etc.

Typically when the board pairs and you have an overpair like this, you want to take a more active line as the board pair gives you extra fold equity against draws, but doesn't actually hurt their chances of hitting a hand much.

Just dont let Q8suited in on what i am about to tell you. Just because people and books and experts tell you LAG or TAG all the time doesnt mean you have to lose your ALL your money if you make a bad play. There are times when calling is the best option. I am big into playing pretty aggressive and not cold calling much, but ino when to slow the f*** down, and with a volitile game such as PLO, there is a lot of reading and money managment going on there. Control of the pot is key and knowing your opponents is a very close second. I think I personally would have R/ or F but knowing someone puts a whole new perspective on things, so its a tough call. Guy sounds like an ATM tho lol.

I agree 100%, and against other opponents I quite often take the more proactive line when the board pairs like this. In this particular instance, my knowledge of the opponent and coverage of the draws were key; knowing that he'd bet and bluff more hands when checked to than if I bet were crucial.