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C bet here everytime? C bet here everytime?

10-03-2008 , 07:56 PM
1) Is it profitable in this spot (3 of suite with raise and two callers) to c bet this 100 percent of time regardless of my hand at 25/50 level as a standard line? I am assuming that I will only be called with any flush or set.

2) Is my c bet bit enough to get the info I need?

Hero (CO): $46.10
BTN: $57.65
SB: $141.35
BB: $34.20
UTG: $49.60

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 5 K 4 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.25) 9 T A (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, SB folds, BB calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.25) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.25) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
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10-03-2008 , 08:59 PM
If you're gonna c-bet, then you need to bet the turn when it bricks. Then the river is an easy decision.
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10-03-2008 , 09:03 PM
ck it down man, why are u betting this flop.
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10-03-2008 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BananaBalla
ck it down man, why are u betting this flop.
I am betting the flop because 1) my bet it needs to work about 40 percent of the time....and I am wondering if on average if it will assuming that only flushes and sets will call 2) My hand has pretty much no value at all

If any math guru's are around an analysis would be what I'm looking for
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10-03-2008 , 10:23 PM
You don't need to win every pot you know

Plus your TPTK might have showdown value.
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10-03-2008 , 10:49 PM
as bananaballa said, i do not like how you turn TPTK (with a tiny bit of showdown value) into a bluff when worse hands are folding and better hands are calling
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10-03-2008 , 10:58 PM
dont cbet your hand has sd value. plus you will get looked up by flushes too much for this to be profitable.
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10-04-2008 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by donkey_king
dont cbet your hand has sd value. plus you will get looked up by flushes too much for this to be profitable.
I guess I do have a bit...lets take that out of the equation though and say that I have no showdown value at all. Say I raised with a mid double suited red rundown and bricked completely.

1) Then is betting going to be profitable against two opponents?
2) What if it was heads up....I would certainly bet then wouldn't I?
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10-04-2008 , 12:23 AM
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1) Then is betting going to be profitable against two opponents?
2) What if it was heads up....I would certainly bet then wouldn't I?
opponent and situation and flop texture dependent. no possible general answer.
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10-04-2008 , 09:08 AM
check seems to make more sense here, bet good and bad hands not good and mediocre.
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10-05-2008 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by popoko42
opponent and situation and flop texture dependent. no possible general answer.
There has got to be some kind of math that dictates the percentage of one or two of the players has a set or flush here.....I have no spades...there are two on the board and there are two 4 card combos out there....this means that there is a blank percent chance that one of the other two players has a set or a flush.....this is all I am going after at this point.

I doubt that this would be profitable 3 way...but hu after taking initiative and the board flopping 3 of a suite that you completely brick. Assuming that your opponent will only continue with a set or flush I would assume that this is a must c-bet everytime. But then again I don't know how to figure the math out to figure this out and would like some help even if getting pointed in the right direction.

P.S Just starting plo I am finding tons of spots in small pots where I constantly wonder mathematically what the correct play is. (For example on a paired board (883 ect), after raising pre with naked aces is the c bet profitable against 1 player...what about 2...what about 3 or 4? What is the chance that the have either an underfull or an 8? It seems as though in holdem these numbers have been crunched alot harder, either that or I just haven't seen or been pointed to mathematical analysis problems in omaha. I really think there are tons of standard math spots that if I understand will improve my game greatly.
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