Party Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BTN: $102.15
Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $403.24
CO: $128.74

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A K T K
1 fold, BTN raises to $2.62, Hero raises to $8.86, BB calls $7.86, BTN calls $6.24

Flop: ($26.58) 5 7 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $14.00, BB calls $14, BTN folds

Turn: ($54.58) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $39.43, Hero folds

how bout potting the flop? 14$ bet, why? I'd just commit to the pot by potting the flop and basically shoving any turn

Tough. Man this hand here is so instructive in terms of why position is so important. Because it's multi-way it's hard to even do a c/r here which I'd love to do against an aggro.

I like your line honestly. I mean what can you rep to get people to fold? and why jam into a pot where your a complete dog?

I mean don't you want people to jam into you when you have the nuts? I think your choice not to be that person is the wise one.

Why is hero excatly a "complete dog" on this flop?

because we are b/f'ing?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 2 5 7

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
As Ks Ts Kc	40.10%	239,823	1,508
6 8 * *, ad *d * *, 4d 6d * *, 6 8 9 *, 4 6 7 *, 3 4 6 *, 7 * * *	59.90%	358,669	1,508

why? simulation done in bout' ½minute so.. but still think we can't fold here

lol at anyone shoving naked 7xxx, 346x, or 86xx here

bf 32ish

In a 3b pot im shoving 86 there all day. That flop does not hit a BB 3betting range and hits a button pfr range.

If you plan on bet folding you should just ch fold and save money imo.

I would almost 90% raising after turn brings low pair and flop raiser checks to me. So easily can rob the pot.

If flop raiser continues leading and I dont have anythin, fold.

agreed that flop doesn't hit ABC Omaha players 3betting range unless with the nut flush draw. And agree it can hit BTN's pfr raising range.

B/F is a much better option than C/F. C/F makes you much easier to play against. If I know you take C/F lines in multi-way pots then I'm betting into flops against you with any 4 cards in my hand all day every day until you show some resistance. I don't think we want to be that guy at the table. But if people know we bet with air and with our made hands then they have to make decisions.

If you take the B/F line here you do have a chance to get 2 folds. Reason not to pot is because all flush draws will come along regardless of the bet sizing in a 3-way pot and hands that have good draws will come along as well regardless of bet size. So you want to maintain pot control and get all the info you need by betting. With the bet size as played you maximize your chance of winning (by betting) and minimize your risk of loss (by having the mindset of b/f if raised).

If I understand you correctly, you are floating 3bettor w everything and robbing pot if he checks on turn? If so, that is again why I said that people are mad if they are bet folding or betting and ch folding turn on non diamond, and instead should just ch fold the flop to save money.

I would never ever do that. And most likely would POT turn on non diamond, as I would do the same with most of my 3b range on that flop.

I mainly commented on the bet folding the flop, which I think is insane on that flop.

Ok, well not with everything i said almost 90% and if it is same player, gonna change strategy obviously Betting in position when board pairs, when check to you I think is good. You can get so many pots, well it works for me. People who c/f are easy to spot and exploit.

I agree that diamond 2 was not so good.

Standard b/f otf.
Standard c/f ott.
Dons post nailed it imo.