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08-22-2011 , 12:45 PM
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Villain seems mildly loose but nothing extreme he limped akqj dbl sooted utg then from a sb pot raise pre into 5 players villain got ai 75bb eff, but meh prob fine anyway

pls look at stacks how best to proceed?

    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (200/400 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10347372

    MP1: 8,641 (21.6 bb)
    MP2: 26,923 (67.3 bb)
    MP3: 19,281 (48.2 bb)
    CO: 22,935 (57.3 bb)
    BTN: 52,657 (131.6 bb)
    SB: 13,445 (33.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): 45,126 (112.8 bb)
    UTG+2: 18,357 (45.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 9 J 4
    4 folds, CO calls 400, BTN calls 400, SB folds, Hero checks

    Flop: (1,400) 6 2 3 (3 players)
    Hero bets 1,200, CO folds, BTN raises to 5,000




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    08-22-2011 , 01:22 PM
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    raise!
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    08-22-2011 , 01:28 PM
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    Quote:
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    raise!
    what if he re raises after that?
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    08-22-2011 , 01:30 PM
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    Raise. If SPR was significantly higher you could be afraid of 45 with spades or 4578, but here the money is hopefully going in and, if you're behind, they're only tournament chips. I hope.
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    08-22-2011 , 02:05 PM
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    Quote:
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    Raise. If SPR was significantly higher you could be afraid of 45 with spades or 4578, but here the money is hopefully going in and, if you're behind, they're only tournament chips. I hope.
    whats his range?
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    08-22-2011 , 02:53 PM
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    the little experience I have in 10$ trnies, this is a very fd( sometimes set) heavy raise. You could even catch an occasional twopair here.

    I'd feel comfortable stacking off, because they dont raise/fold. They just jam or cakll not realizing that a call commits them to a losing cause.
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    08-22-2011 , 03:01 PM
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    This is a spot where folding the nuts might be the best move. We have no way of improving and we are 100BB deep in a tourney. I think i wait for a better spot I just hate stacking 100BB in a plo donkament with dry nuts.
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    08-22-2011 , 03:19 PM
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    call flop and cr brick turn could be an option I guess. flush or pairing board cards u could c/f on turn if he bets. if not u could bluff him out of the same hand or safely check. well yeah a lot of ways to play here...
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    08-22-2011 , 03:28 PM
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    Quote:
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    whats his range?
    There's a bunch of 45 - but also nut flush draws and sets. I think there's enough we beat - or at least fold out - that we are ahead.

    But deeper or multiway, I think we can call / call or even just fold.
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    08-22-2011 , 03:38 PM
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    His range is sets, straights, and flush draws. Sometimes with 2 of the 3.
    About half the deck is a blank, so I just call flop and c/r blank turns (c/f flush/paired turns and hope to get to showdown).
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    08-22-2011 , 05:06 PM
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    Quote:
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    what if he re raises after that?
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    08-22-2011 , 07:21 PM
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    Quote:
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    what if he re raises after that?
    i would ship

    his reraising you on the flop range is fairly wide, and you can't be afraid of 45 with a flush draw

    he is likely to be willing to play for stacks with worse hands
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    08-22-2011 , 07:27 PM
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    Your not "deep", at least, not by cash game standards. bet/bet the flop and get it in, tournament players, especially at micros, will be overjoyed to ship a bunch of worse hands like AAxx and KKxx w/FD or ******ed trash like 33xx or 63xx.

    To the point: you're not deep enough to be worried about getting jellyrolled
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    08-22-2011 , 08:16 PM
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    Quote:
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    This is a spot where folding the nuts might be the best move.
    This is a spot where we should realize that we're playing 10 $ donkament and they both propably have overpairs without draws. Ship it. If you get freerolled, ul.
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    08-22-2011 , 08:31 PM
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    AI u got BDFD
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    08-22-2011 , 08:47 PM
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    Quote:
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    There's a bunch of 45 - but also nut flush draws and sets. I think there's enough we beat - or at least fold out - that we are ahead.

    But deeper or multiway, I think we can call / call or even just fold.
    he is never ever raising here to fold I think that believing we can rr and ever expect a fold is just never happening
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    08-22-2011 , 08:49 PM
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    Quote:
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    i would ship

    his reraising you on the flop range is fairly wide, and you can't be afraid of 45 with a flush draw

    he is likely to be willing to play for stacks with worse hands
    i just dont believe that is ever the case sorry i lead into 3 players and he rr deep and is willing to play for this stack IN A TOURNI deep in I should of said WITH WORSE HANDS wtf what worse hands r u dreaming of here that have limped the button??
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    08-22-2011 , 08:49 PM
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    Quote:
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    This is a spot where we should realize that we're playing 10 $ donkament and they both propably have overpairs without draws. Ship it. If you get freerolled, ul.
    u think he limps suited over pairs on the button with a co limper here, really??
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    08-22-2011 , 08:50 PM
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    Quote:
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    This is a spot where folding the nuts might be the best move. We have no way of improving and we are 100BB deep in a tourney. I think i wait for a better spot I just hate stacking 100BB in a plo donkament with dry nuts.
    and what Kenny Bania said

    I check called the turn was a blank Q

    what now?
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    08-22-2011 , 08:53 PM
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    Quote:
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    u think he limps suited over pairs on the button with a co limper here, really??
    Well.. What I ment is that it's 10 $ donkament and they're prob both unconfirmed idiots. Shipping can not be ev- in a long run.
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    08-22-2011 , 09:31 PM
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    excellent thread imo can u make 15 more of these?
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    08-22-2011 , 09:38 PM
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    Quote:
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    he is never ever raising here to fold I think that believing we can rr and ever expect a fold is just never happening
    OK so if his sets & 2p are not folding, that is even more reason to raise?
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    08-22-2011 , 09:47 PM
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    Quote:
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    and what Kenny Bania said

    I check called the turn was a blank Q

    what now?
    it rhymes with 'hot'
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    08-22-2011 , 09:48 PM
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    Quote:
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    u think he limps suited over pairs on the button with a co limper here, really??
    Quote:
    he limped akqj dbl sooted
    ..............

    .......

    .
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    08-22-2011 , 10:50 PM
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    is this a level?
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