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AQJTds in BB - Squeeze or flat? AQJTds in BB - Squeeze or flat?

11-08-2015 , 06:59 PM
5-handed 10/20 PLO game, weak players, around $1000-1100 stacks, but UTG is a shortie ($350)

UTG limps, CO raises to $90, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero looks down at AQTJ

Players are slightly stationy so probably getting atleast 1 call.


a) Do we squeeze here? Or flat and play it safe? The only thing I hate about this situation is that we're OOP and if we get calls and flop some kind of pair, we're obligated to push the remaining stack in given stack sizes.

b) Also, it's a possibility that some flatted/OR has AA, but since we have the A blocker, it's less likely. Does that make it more of a squeeze?

c) If we squeeze and get 4bet preflop, can we find a fold given stack sizes?
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11-08-2015 , 08:11 PM
A. Yes, we squeeze and there is nothing to hate about the situation.

B. Mostly yes.

C. Not with our stack.
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11-09-2015 , 12:03 AM
I'm 3-betting here and very happy about everything.
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11-09-2015 , 12:59 AM
POTZOR
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11-09-2015 , 02:05 AM
squeeze all day

why the hell does a 10/20 game have these bs stacks?
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11-09-2015 , 02:46 AM
gii
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11-09-2015 , 09:06 AM
k
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11-09-2015 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by look at me now
POTZOR

Yuppers
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11-09-2015 , 09:40 AM
Obv squeeze imo
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11-09-2015 , 09:57 AM
This hand is good in low SPR and high SPR, in between it's often awkward 3-4 way + you are oop. I'd pot and don't worry about it.
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11-09-2015 , 12:34 PM
dont squeeze!! too risky, play flop!
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11-09-2015 , 02:14 PM
So the general consensus is to squeeze. A few more questions...

If short stacks make this an obvious squeeze, at what stack sizes should this be a flat instead? If there was only 1 raiser and no callers, should we flat because the SPR won't go as low?

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Originally Posted by Mig
This hand is good in low SPR and high SPR, in between it's often awkward 3-4 way
Why is it good in high SPR but bad in medium SPR?
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11-09-2015 , 02:44 PM
this hand is just awesome period.

it does play better deeper when people will make much bigger mistakes and you can free roll the **** out of them for a lot more money but it still plays well at these stacks.

and seriously where is this game? 10/20+ plo games almost always play really deep.
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11-09-2015 , 08:38 PM
Stack sizes are hilarious. Someone has 15BB?
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11-09-2015 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thesublimeobject
Stack sizes are hilarious. Someone has 15BB?
+1
hand really happened? or pimped up micro hand?
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11-11-2015 , 11:59 AM
How are you in a 10/20 game and clueless about the value of your hand at these stacks?

Pot & find someone to high 5
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11-11-2015 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptJAS
How are you in a 10/20 game and clueless about the value of your hand at these stacks?

Pot & find someone to high 5
and try to refrain from dancing on the table.
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11-11-2015 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold
So the general consensus is to squeeze. A few more questions...

If short stacks make this an obvious squeeze, at what stack sizes should this be a flat instead? If there was only 1 raiser and no callers, should we flat because the SPR won't go as low?



Why is it good in high SPR but bad in medium SPR?
in high SPR you have lots of room to play turns and rivers
in low SPR it forces other to "go with their equity" that you can have dominated
in mid SPR you can't just blindly go with pair + back doors happily and you also won't get to peel with players behind you
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11-11-2015 , 11:29 PM
Pot for value. The word squeeze need not be used when your hand is this strong? Do you "squeeze" in this spot with kk in a nl game? Also lol at stack sizes this seems more like a 2/5 game. Id probably squeeze almost any single suites A in this spot and any mildly connecting double suites hand.

Also if we pot we should have around 1/3 of our stack in, so folding is out of the question.
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11-19-2015 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold
5-handed 1/2 PLO game, weak players, around $1000-1100 stacks, but UTG is a shortie ($350)
makes more sense
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11-21-2015 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold
a) Do we squeeze here? Or flat and play it safe? The only thing I hate about this situation is that we're OOP and if we get calls and flop some kind of pair, we're obligated to push the remaining stack in given stack sizes.

b) Also, it's a possibility that some flatted/OR has AA, but since we have the A blocker, it's less likely. Does that make it more of a squeeze?

c) If we squeeze and get 4bet preflop, can we find a fold given stack sizes?
Is this post a joke? I don't care which stackdepth it is, this hand is probably always a repot.

a) YES. If you flop a pair you go all in, if you don't flop a pair you probably still go all in, maaaybe c/f a 865 flop with no backdoors. Flopping a pair is a great situation for you. Being OOP isn't really a disadvantage when you can just go all in.

b) I'd imagine at these stackdepths nobody flats AA, so the only players that may have AA are the limper or the raiser. We don't care though, cause we still have a reasonable hand against AA.

c) Again, stackdepths don't really matter. Either there's enough money in the middle to go with it or your hand has enough implied odds. You always have to go with it. Kinda feel like I got trolled by someone with the nickname 6betfold.
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11-29-2015 , 07:28 PM
What about a small raise, it forces the short stack to fold or jam in theory, if he jams he reopens it for us, if he folds or flats we should get more of an idea on the original raiser and it doesnt commit our stack, when the flop isnt ideal, which is what happens most the time
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