after reviewing this hand i was wondering what % of4bet are we looking for to get it in preflop whit AKKx and KKxx...
in this situation villian had a 6% 4bet so i think its an easy fold or am i wrong here?
asuming he 4bets all AAxx 1/3 of times we are way behind and 2/3 we are a little ahead if he 4bets ds rundowns etc...

Ongame Network $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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Hero (BB): $145.80
CO: $33.90
BTN: $48.95
SB: $63.60

Pre Flop: ($1.00) Hero is BB with 4 A K K
1 fold, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $8, BTN raises to $26, 2 folds

infact ... it is a slightly -ev call if u give him only aces. but 6% is more then just aces...



so against 6% (what is rly a lot 4betting!) i think uv got to get it meaning call and ship any acceptable flop like two backdoors and no ace or gutshot + 2 backdoors and overpair.

Calling is bad. Shove or fold. Against 6 % 4bet I can see a shove.

You can't fold any flop if you call here.d

dont think we are commited. still have half stack left and i rly would fold a 6d7d8c flop.

def don't call. I lean towards folding, but it's completely player dependent.

6% means he 4 bets 6% of the time he gets 3 bet

You would call 50 BBs pre then fold the flop getting ~3:1?

Tbh it's one of those situations where folding really is standard. Even though call/re-raise could be the thing it seems pretty much like that the opponent has aces. On this level when the raise-reraise-rereraise goes around one player has aces 90% of the time.

He also has already 50% of his stack in the middle, so even if you hit something you wont really get paid off. If the opponent had 2x more stack I'd prolly call and see if he wants to go broke with his aces.

EV of pushing.
(8*2+48,50-8)/(48,50-8)=1,4 to 1. We get 1/2,4 to get it in here. We need ~42% and he's never folding if we're pushing. We got
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AdKdKs*s 51.36% 290,337 35,686
6% 48.64% 273,977 35,686

So easy push.

Stop making stupid calculations, his 4b range is not 6%, he has 4b 6% of the time he has been 3b over your small sample size. He has AA** here 90%+ of the time

Never mind. Good point.

Thanks, also I didn't mean your calculations specifically but pretty much any calculation possible in this situation

All you need to look at is that it is a 50PLO game with a villain trying to 4bet shovel as much money in preflop and realize he has AA**.

Stop relying on HUD numbers so much, next time you see someone playing something like 60/1 over 500 hands go to showdown after raising UTG preflop and see what he shows down, guarantee its not AATJ but something like 667K that he decided because to raise because it was 3:19pm and his cat just meowed.

You should only use HUD numbers to classify opponents into categories, someone playing 69/5 is going to play almost exactly the same as someone playing 37/5 post flop even though he is playing almost twice as many hands and has a much weaker range.

get it all in pre or fold...against 6% it's an easy shove imo...never see a flop and try to make a decision...shove/fold....that's it

How many times, this is not the top 6% of hands, this is the top 6% of his raising range after he gets 3bet (discounting cold 4betting). This is AA 95+% of the time, and we have an ace and a dominated pair in our hands. Stacks aren't deep enough to do anything but fold, especially oop, since he's jamming every single flop.

got the point , thanks guys!