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05-09-2011 , 01:28 PM
HH seems to be rigged. I called te turn and checked back the river.
Guy was 27/17
I would have to b/f on the flop if I cbet because I cant call a shove right?(correct me if Im wrong) Thats why I checked back. On the turn he bets and I think that raising doesnt acomplish that much even though I can protect vs. FDs I would get it in vs. trips or a str8 some of the time. My plan was to call turn and pretty much any river depending on size. Now on te river when he checkes I think there is no value in betting as nothing better is going to fold and nothing worse is gonna call.
I am interested in trn play here actually. Calling is the best play? What about river then which ones do you call if he bets again?
$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($177)
CO ($100)
Hero (BTN) ($100)
SB ($180)
BB ($116)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN A 10 7 A
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $10.50, 1 fold, BB calls $9.50, CO calls $7.50

Flop: 6 8 4 ($32, 3 players)
BB checks

Turn: 4 ($32, 3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20, Hero folds

River: 2 ($72, 2 players)
CO checks

Final Pot: $72
CO shows
K 5 8 A
Hero shows
A 10 7 A

CO wins $69 (net +$38.50)

BB lost $10.50
Hero lost $30.50
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05-09-2011 , 01:59 PM
please hide the results.
and i like to bet/fold the flop and get the pot.
the problem (without reads) is that one of the villians probably flops a straight or s.th. and could valuetown you 2 streets, withe the 4 on the turn. so i think bet /fold is a good line here. on this board i bet around 17 dollars, because u don't have to protekt on this board and u have the position.
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05-09-2011 , 02:09 PM
i like flop/turn play. river i m a bit tempted to bet but mostly check it down.
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05-09-2011 , 02:16 PM
but if u check the flop vs 2 villians u give some much equity up. thats the main reason to bet the flop!
but i like to change my mind if you give me a reason for this line. with some good arguments!
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05-09-2011 , 02:42 PM
oh i misread the hand for 2 players on the flop. i guess i d fold the turn then. the reason to not bet the flop usually is that we dont hit really good hands often enough. villains might check/raise two pair that would make us fold a lot of equity (if we fold).
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05-09-2011 , 02:54 PM
no shame in c/f flop
turn call is meh, I'd fold without solid reads on CO
river I like bluffing given that 57 and 4*** hands will fold to a bet alot and don't think he's checking boats to us very often. Would expect to fold out some flushes vs decent opponents too. We very credibly rep nf with overpair
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05-09-2011 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by penisfish
but if u check the flop vs 2 villians u give some much equity up. thats the main reason to bet the flop!
but i like to change my mind if you give me a reason for this line. with some good arguments!
All better hands that you will get value out of (like KK**) is going to fold and all hands that have you beat will call?

Whats your plan if you bet flop, get called and then they lead the turn?

I think the problem is not the flop, but deciding what to do on later streets. And honestly, I would be clueless once I bet the flop. You are just putting more money into a pot that you can easily easily be blown off of at any point.

You bet flop, someone calls, and now the turn comes (pick any card you want - even an Ace) and he leads for full pot, whats your play?

If this hand was HU I would be much more inclined to fire a cbet, but since we have 2 players in this hand theres a solid chance that someone has hit the flop and is going to continue.
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05-09-2011 , 06:13 PM
Checking flop back is fine against two villains. If we're betting we're calling one villain and folding if they both go in yeah? Bet folding that flop if only one villain shoves is just setting fire to cash. I often bet flop 100bb deep - but if your 3 bet range is very tight probably best not to.

As played, turn card is a great card for you. Depending on villain's aggression I just shove it, but calling is okay.

River nothing else to do but check it back.
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