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AAxxss 350bb deep. AAxxss 350bb deep.

11-29-2011 , 11:27 AM
Villain was a 68/20/20%3bet - 170 hands, some super special human being from moldova ive rarely seen before. I had some history with him when he tried to bluff me off huge pots, basicly got my whole stack from him and he got his stack by luckboxing the other players. *lighting a candle*

His fold to 3bet is 0%, his fold to 4bet is 0%.

Generally he was kind of spazzy preflop with his 3bets and also very weird redonkolous postflop in spot where his lines didnt make much sense.

What do you do on that turn ?
Flip a coin ? fold ? shove ? call-induce river jam ?

I think i can be dead here on the turn, but i can also have him crushed to 2 outs.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($34.33)
Hero ($41.47)
UTG ($9.57)
CO ($14.13)
BTN ($3.09)

Dealt to Hero A 4 A K

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.30, fold, SB calls $2.30

FLOP ($6.90) 4 3 3

SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

TURN ($15.90) 4 3 3 6

SB bets $11.34, Hero ???

As im into pictures today: i think this fits!

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11-29-2011 , 01:23 PM
stack preservation comes into play here when you are this deep and you have the best position on the table VS a very obvious fish who is also super deep so id fold this time.
as you say yourself you can be either dead or have him crushed and we have no idea which. After the c/c flop and lead turn, i would give him more credit for a 3 than an OP and would say we are dead more often than we have him crushed
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11-29-2011 , 01:55 PM
Folddddd
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11-29-2011 , 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joppi
Folddddd
haha yeah no shyt, but why ?
Only because his line looks scary doesnt mean he has the nuts.

for clarification, here is one hand villain played that keept me guessing if i was actually good OTT.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($7)
BB ($10)
UTG ($11.22)
UTG+1 ($42.33)
Hero ($10.48)
BTN ($9.42)

Dealt to Hero 7 6 J 7

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.35, fold, BTN raises to $0.60, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25

FLOP ($1.35) 4 9 3

UTG+1 bets $0.96, BTN calls $0.96

TURN ($3.27) 4 9 3 K

UTG+1 bets $2.33, BTN calls $2.33

RIVER ($7.93) 4 9 3 K 2

UTG+1 bets $5.66, BTN calls $5.53 (AI)

UTG+1 shows 5 T Q K
(Pre 37%, Flop 33.2%, Turn 25.0%)

BTN shows A 4 A 4
(Pre 63%, Flop 66.8%, Turn 75.0%)

BTN wins $18.06

he was UTG.

think he is capeable of semi-bluffing in those spots. If would guess he is also capeable of bluffing pure air.
he also called some guys 4bet shalow with T882r and hit a set on him, lols. and thats only one of the many stupid plays ive seen him do.
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11-29-2011 , 03:43 PM
I'm on board with buckyo here, the difference between your second example hand and the OP hand is that you can be so much more crushed on the paired-straight completing board, even if it is low and you have seen him do stupid **** and also you're really deep.

To be honest though at gamespeed after seeing some of that crazy crap I might just "F it NFD+overpair against spaz, les GO" and it could be correct but it's hard to tell from just a couple of things you've seen him do.
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11-29-2011 , 05:01 PM
To echo earlier comments, your edge is amplified stratospherically deep-stacked in position vs. this guy so assuming this is shove or fold I take a rain check and wait for a better spot where you have it board-locked.

Also I have to say I love this line by the fish. Love it.
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11-29-2011 , 06:08 PM
I think there's a bit of a difference between donking the flop vs. donking the turn. I'm not sure how to interpret turn bets, except at micros I've rarely seen them rep anything but strength.

First hand history isn't completely awful, except maybe the river bet with decent SD. Calling the 4bet is lulz, but it wasn't like hes ridiculaggro and 4bet the T882 himself, just likes calling with whatever.

But yeah guessing here is awful. If you jam, he will probably fold his air, but setup to get crushed by 3s, and if you call, you're guessing twice.
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11-29-2011 , 07:11 PM
it is suspicious, but he is wide enough pre to hit this low board often. Timing reads are everything.

You can check flop btw and try to get him to see value in any KK QQ JJ and keeping pot smaller, if he is gonna be raising alot that is, otherwise b/fing is just horrid because of how often it would happen if you don't get stacks in correctly.
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11-30-2011 , 01:31 PM
He is def. wide enough to hit that board or any others. But overall he was jsut a dishonest and spewy player overall.
He pottet turn quickly.

My gutts/reads told me he was full of shyt. Due to the other hands he was involved in he seemd to make plays in huge pots.

Calling doesnt even make me look liek a genious, its just read/feel based. Folding is the solid/better play overall.
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