This was quite different from the usual 200PLO table. There had been quite a lot of 3-betting and making plays at the pot... this wasn't a '3bet=AAxx' table. However, there wasn't much 4betting.

Sry no PTO stats, my trial expired and I'm waiting for the reg code.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP: $668.40
Hero (CO): $413.45
BTN: $573.20
SB: $361.45
BB: $892.15
UTG: $382.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with A 7 A 2
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN raises to $24...

oh jesus what a gross spot. I have nfidea what I would do here.

call.

What an ugly AAxx hand and spot this deep and OOP. I think call and hope to overset him. Way too deep to 4 bet this, especially OOP I think.

calling for set value pretty much i guess, nothing else to go for.
but since you said 3bets were quite common, i would assume folding here isnt bad either cause villain wont be stacking off on many A x x-flops, namingly only when he sets up his KK/QQ...maybe not even his QQ, unless the hand has straight-potential as well.
and that just wont happen often enough to make the PF-call a no brainer id say.

nonono!

lol if u play bad post flop i think u should fold here

i respect your opinion and you're prolly right, since i only started playing PLO not too long ago, but could you be a bit more specific in regard to my thought process? im aware that aces are ahead of almost all his hands, unless he has better aces, but playing against that whole 3B-range that seems to be out there at that table at that time OOP with a hand that has to be dumped most of the times post-flop and will only really get viallain to stack off in set over set situations.......i dunno.

maybe we can specify and go by post-flop-confidence. if one has tons of experience at this level and has very good post flop skills, its a call, otherwise consider fold?

edit: so what exactly are the plans when we call PF? personally, i would think we c/c a Q 3 7 RB flop for example and reevalute the turn and c/c or c/f? same goes for river?

To those suggesting a call: Is there any non-A flop where you want to continue with the hand?

low paired flop = gold

not when you consider the table dynamics mentioned by slinger.
a lot of the 3 betting range will be hands like 4567 and such. of course, the likelyhood of villain catching tripps isnt high, but since he is in position, it will be easy for him to take the play away again if we check-raise and he calls or if he flats a lead-bet considering slinger's statement of lots of plays at pots.

Call. Obviously we're going to be put in lots of high-variance, tough spots postflop, but it's still better than either alternative. Unless we believe the 3-bettor is better than us to the point where he's going to seriously outplay us postflop and could well have better aces anyway, in which case fold.

this deep it's call pre and then c/r on any non-coordinated rainbow flop. hopefully you can flop two pairs or the 'fd' with your naked aces.

on a coordinated board with fd in which you don't have the ace, i'd fold to a c-bet.

I want to see the flop now please. Interesting hand.

OK, I'm a PLO uber-noob, but here's my go at disagreeing with everyone who acually knows what they are talking about:

OP mentions that villain's 3-bet range is wide. Given this, our naked aces are ahead of more of his range than 'usual', and the correct adjustment is to 4-bet more. If we don't widen our 4-betting range here, we need to narrow our 3-bet range so we don't keep finding ourselves in this crappy situation of playing aces HU for set value only.

If we 4-bet and villain calls, pot is ~$200 and we have ~$300 behind and are pot-committted.

Edit: meant narrow our opening range not 3-bet range.

OP didn't 3-bet, the villain did. 4-bet will let villain play very well after flop in position with 1.5 PSB behind. The reverse implied odds are pretty horrible with such crappy aces. Calling the 3-bet will not reveal anything about OP's hand (and somewhat disguises his aces).

The pot won't be $200 unless I am missing something...

Sorry, there wasn't one. I folded.

I don't think we should be raising bad Aces if we don't know how to handle a three bet.

That said, I go to for a min raise then you can shove if he 5 bets.

Other wise fold is good, and weak.

ahhh, good point, this is PL thing is darn complicated.....

Posted this one a couple of other forums, here are some responses.

if you cold call preflop you have a lot more value than just overset equity.

LOL

just call and see the flop. folding crappy aces preflop is real bad unless the BTN owns u postflop.