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08-15-2010 , 10:53 PM
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its really really really boring sometimes ...
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08-15-2010 , 11:02 PM
i checked my EV bb/100 and my UTG is basically in line with the rest. it goes BTN > CO > MP > UTG > SB > BB as it should
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08-16-2010 , 05:46 AM
Filtered for 5 and 6 handed play, this year, UTG+24, MP+24, CO+35,BTN+60, SB-10,BB-30.

I think I am running very good on the button and SB.

Actually I am pretty sure I am running very well in general this year.
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08-17-2010 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cobrastatus
I'm pretty sure gordo16 has said he makes a profit from the blinds, would be interesting to see what his overall positional bb/100 is.
If anyone's profitable from the blinds over a meaningful sample (250k+) at midstakes+, my jaw will drop in awe.
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08-18-2010 , 10:12 PM
I wonder how large the samples need to be to even consider those stats... not that it's useless but it's pretty hard to make any conclusion without a "huge" sample size.

Also, ev bb/100 would better.
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08-18-2010 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by M4URIC3
I wonder how large the samples need to be to even consider those stats... not that it's useless but it's pretty hard to make any conclusion without a "huge" sample size.

Also, ev bb/100 would better.
How do I find the ev bb/100? I can't find it, maybe I'm using an old HEM type?
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08-19-2010 , 12:18 AM
SB: -32
BB -45
UTG -22
UTG+1 7
CO 41
BTN 71

96k hands
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08-19-2010 , 02:55 AM
You really shouldn't be losing UTG. Worst you can do is just never play a hand and be neutral EV. Small sample, but that's minus enough you should look at what/how you're playing UTG.
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08-19-2010 , 03:46 AM
ya def. the sample itself is small and i unfortunately had a big downswing - and spewed - during that period. perhaps UTG just took a beating. I'm kind of lazy when it comes to reviewing HH's....

I have looked at my hands for this month and after 23740 hands i am +48 UTG. also my blinds are reduced to -6 and -29 respectively. Even shorter sample, i know, but I feel like I've been playing my A game this month. During the series I was worn out and def playing more of a B or C game...

I wish my HEM didn't blow up so I could review a really big sample size. Anyways Just wanted to throw them stats out for ppl to compare to. You ppl than win in the blinds are spew monkeys imo. teach me.
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08-19-2010 , 04:35 AM
fwiw you can email stars and/or ftp and have them send you the HH for every hand you've ever played, or, hands from date x to y, if you want to re-kindle your HEM DB.
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08-19-2010 , 08:24 AM
Aren't the HHs automatically stored to your hard drive after being imported into HEM? I don't understand how people lose all their HHs when HEM crashes, please fill me in here.
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08-19-2010 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DPred123
How do I find the ev bb/100? I can't find it, maybe I'm using an old HEM type?
I dont use my poker computer right now but I think if you just click to the "+" on the stat selection part, you can add all kinds of "EV stats" including EV bb / 100.

When you run like hell, you definitivly want to look at those stats
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08-19-2010 , 09:13 PM
[x] Profitable from the blinds
[ ] 250k hand sample

54,360 hands

SB: 11.56 bb/100
BB: -3.41
UTG: 11.93
MP: 12.09
CO: 40.49
BTN: 43.16

SB: -0.06 ev bb/100
BB: 8.79
UTG: 37.75
MP: 6.48
CO: 44.28
BTN: 42.27

Last edited by jjgoldy5; 08-19-2010 at 09:18 PM.
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08-20-2010 , 12:24 AM
maybe stating the obvious, but UTG stats are gonna tend to be good since most people will play the highest of their ranges there.

i think you'll also tend to get into more spots where you're squeezed when holding good aces/kings since the entire table's left to act, which makes those hands pretty easy to play.
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08-20-2010 , 02:21 AM
You're playing too few hands UTG if your UTG true winrate is really higher than later positions.

I actually think a lot of players play too few hands UTG and too many in CO or BTN but that's besides the point.
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08-20-2010 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
You're playing too few hands UTG if your UTG true winrate is really higher than later positions.
I don't understand. If your win rate is relatively good UTG, then why change your UTG play at all? Surely you should be working on improving your play from all the other positions rather than trying to bring down your UTG win rate so that's 'in line' with the other figures!?
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08-20-2010 , 04:46 AM
I fail at logic.

The correct conclusion should have been if you could push that kind of winrate UTG, you probably should figure out how you can push higher winrates in later positions too.

Scoot can testify I went to an Irish pub to watch a Yankees game yesterday and was not entirely sober.
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08-20-2010 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
I fail at logic.

The correct conclusion should have been if you could push that kind of winrate UTG, you probably should figure out how you can push higher winrates in later positions too.

Scoot can testify I went to an Irish pub to watch a Yankees game yesterday and was not entirely sober.
ah thank you, after you first post i was like "wtf is this ****! its so revolutional i cant understand it"
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08-20-2010 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
You're playing too few hands UTG if your UTG true winrate is really higher than later positions.

I actually think a lot of players play too few hands UTG and too many in CO or BTN but that's besides the point.
I'd like to hear more on this, sir! As zach mentioned, this is quite revolutionary, as current knowledge states the exact opposite.
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08-20-2010 , 09:31 AM
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I'd like to hear more on this, sir! As zach mentioned, this is quite revolutionary, as current knowledge states the exact opposite.
There is a point, i feel like when i was in some point of my omaha 6max field, i knew that utg was like the nittiest place ever (just dont play any 4 and ur even, just play max goodies and u get moneyz)

& that oboy that place called position is the place to be, any4 will ship the dollars to roopes account.

= i can put myself and some other beginning omaha players to a "game-plan" where they play too tight utg & too loose button (but ofc the "too tight utg" is relatively fohkin pennies (and it to be too tight, u had to have some serious postflop skills) & ofc u dont have them if u can play (know ur playing) way too loose ip and leaking moneys.

imo
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08-20-2010 , 09:36 AM
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08-20-2010 , 09:56 AM
My head hurts. Too hung over I think. My eyes are bleeding too
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08-20-2010 , 10:25 PM
Sometimes when sober ... dont really get it out what i might / or im really trying to get out (mostly thought) [haha].

Like its not really on any level worth thinking / putting effort to, but i see myself for example 1 year ago, playing "normal / decent" utg hand range(PLAYING TOO TIGHT, if i could go back with futurepowers), and spewwing mucho mucho grande ip (even futurepowers dont save there)

it was the seed. EDIT : so the seed was like = there are on some level something to be thinking about ur own (if ur not master yet) & on other semi tards gamebookments, that mayby didnt know EXICST in real internet pokkerworld.
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08-20-2010 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebuy Roope
Sometimes when sober ... dont really get it out what i might / or im really trying to get out (mostly thought) [haha].

Like its not really on any level worth thinking / putting effort to, but i see myself for example 1 year ago, playing "normal / decent" utg hand range(PLAYING TOO TIGHT, if i could go back with futurepowers), and spewwing mucho mucho grande ip (even futurepowers dont save there)

it was the seed. EDIT : so the seed was like = there are on some level something to be thinking about ur own (if ur not master yet) & on other semi tards gamebookments, that mayby didnt know EXICST in real internet pokkerworld.
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08-21-2010 , 03:58 AM
eagerly awaiting volume 3
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