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04-28-2011 , 11:09 AM

ytriffon

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i've had a discussion with my friend over this hand (from his HH),
i mentioned he's missing value not betting this river and he was more concerned if villain might bluff shove and force him to fold this deep.
villain is 93/61/31 3bet agg factor 1, for ~65 sample size.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9178882

MP: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $26.50 (53 bb)
Hero (BTN): $167 (334 bb)
SB: $149.80 (299.6 bb)
BB: $59.40 (118.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

MP raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB raises to $8, BB folds, MP calls $6.50, CO folds, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($26) 9

(3 players)
SB bets $24.70, MP folds, Hero calls $24.70

Turn: ($75.40) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($75.40) A

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

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what do you think about flop call, and river check behind,
are there any alternate lines you would take on this hand ?

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04-28-2011 , 11:11 AM

Tsajajaja

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river check is too weak

and why are we afraid of bluffshove here when hero can rep flush so well

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04-28-2011 , 11:17 AM

ytriffon

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Originally Posted by Tsajajaja

river check is too weak

and why are we afraid of bluffshove here when hero can rep flush so well

thanks for the answer,
if hero represents flush so well, what can he expect to get a call from ?

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04-28-2011 , 11:22 AM

ytriffon

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also, how much would you bet on the river, and are you willing to call c/r there ?

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04-28-2011 , 11:23 AM

potatophreek

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Originally Posted by ytriffon

thanks for the answer,
if hero represents flush so well, what can he expect to get a call from ?

depends on bet size but i suspect villain will call with any flush and if we make it 1/2 pot or less probably any straight as well. as played i bet/call $35-$40 (about tree fiddy)

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04-28-2011 , 04:19 PM

provotrout

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villain's turn check is awful. Betting river is a little tricky since villain is representing a weak made hand + better fd ott check. I don't think you lose much value long term checking behind on river considering the villain's line.

flop call is fine. You're ahead against nut straight w/o redraws.

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04-28-2011 , 04:48 PM

AngelStoev

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Depends on opponents style and your previous history with him.But i think if he made the flush he would have potted into you.WP

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04-28-2011 , 05:01 PM

PipChip

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Originally Posted by ytriffon

thanks for the answer,
if hero represents flush so well, what can he expect to get a call from ?

This is my thoughts...

Nh I think

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04-29-2011 , 12:07 AM

Tsajajaja

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Originally Posted by ytriffon

if hero represents flush so well, what can he expect to get a call from ?

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Originally Posted by provotrout

villain's turn check is awful.

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Originally Posted by AngelStoev

Depends on opponents style and your previous history with him.But i think if he made the flush he would have potted into you.WP

what is this nonsense

edit actualy turn check is kinda bad w/o reads i agree with that

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04-29-2011 , 12:17 AM

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lnternet

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Originally Posted by Tsajajaja

river check is too weak

and why are we afraid of bluffshove here when hero can rep flush so well

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Originally Posted by ytriffon

thanks for the answer,
if hero represents flush so well, what can he expect to get a call from ?

when hero bets he is polarized to a flush or a bluff, so raising hero's bet makes no sense.

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04-29-2011 , 12:33 AM

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provotrout

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Tsaja you've agreed with me three times this month, setting records itt

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