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01-17-2013 , 11:47 AM

ndahlhoff10

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On Game, $0.50/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15531591

BTN: $15 (30 bb)
SB: $43.25 (86.5 bb)
BB: $22.16 (44.3 bb)
Hero (UTG): $204.35 (408.7 bb)
MP: $61.88 (123.8 bb)
CO: $64.90 (129.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO calls $1.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $6.50, BB folds, Hero calls $5, CO folds

Flop: ($15) 6

(2 players)
SB bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50

Turn: ($38) 8

(2 players)
SB bets $25.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $25.25

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Vil is an ok reg, 20/16, 7% 3b, 6% 3b from blinds, 68% flop cb, and same ott. I don't really like shoving flop bc, I don't think he has much of a b/f range here, but think my equity is enough to continue.

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01-17-2013 , 12:19 PM

trixydixy

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I dont like to open this, its too loose for me. I fold vs 3b, villain is playing only 86bb so less to win, less implied odds, less room for manoeverity, and CO is still behind us so he might shove and then we have to fold and if he calls we dont have position.

As played, mehh I guess I float flop, turn is an odds game.

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01-17-2013 , 12:21 PM

bartolomeus

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opening this hand is absolutly fine.

But im folding or raising otf, certainly not calling, with that flop texture and remaining stack villain will push his AA and (semi-)bluffs on any turn and you basicly can only call when sth like 8h hits the turn.

just fold otf. and why do you think you have enough equity to continue on the flop ?

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01-17-2013 , 12:31 PM

ndahlhoff10

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Don't like raising the flop without fold equity when we're behind his range. Also don't like folding flop with two nut gutshots, bdnfd, Ace

Think folding pre is bad and so is folding to the 3b, fwiw, co is loose passive fish and isn't shoving enough to make it something to consider.

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01-17-2013 , 01:55 PM

superjamii

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Opening pre is definitely standard. Calling and folding to 3b is imo quite close, folding of course seems a bit nitty, but our hand does pretty badly against his 3b range. The fact that villain is only 86,5bb deep is bad for us too.

I'm folding flop too. Calling is the worst option as the only good turn cards for us are 7 and Q. Any other card and we should be doing bad against his range, but still usually have to call his turnshove. If you aren't folding flop you should shove for any FE there might still be.

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01-17-2013 , 03:49 PM

Mt.FishNoob

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Pretty much agree with above...

I may fold to 3b as I'm worried about CO sharing my range and also making fold equity hard to attain,,, this flop situation of calling double gutter + bdfd is not in my preflop plan... I cut my losses instead chasing the breakeven, implied odds should be minimal .

SO I would pot flop or muck

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01-17-2013 , 04:53 PM

desemus

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Would you all float the flop against villain if he were deeper? If so how deep?

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01-17-2013 , 05:30 PM

zv2009

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if we weight his range to AAanything

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AhTc8hJs	38.72%	825,661	15,665
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