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5/10 river set vbet gone awry 5/10 river set vbet gone awry

03-16-2020 , 12:46 PM
5/10 anonymous, villain is 12/8 over 25 hands no reads

[converted_hand][hand_history]Ignition - $10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $1,104.00 (110.4 bb)
CO: $182.25 (18.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $1,180.75 (118.1 bb)
SB: $2,384.29 (238.4 bb)

SB posts $5.00, BB posts $10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $15.00) Hero has K 7 Q Q
fold, Hero raises to $35.00, fold, BB calls $25.00

Flop: ($75.00, 2 players) 3 K A
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($75.00, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($75.00, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero bets $72.00, BB raises to $288.00, Hero?

Should I use like a 1/2 pot sizing here with AQ in my range?
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03-16-2020 , 06:30 PM
Okay brother here is the deal, #1 people play big cards and #2 if you fold, then you turned your hand into a bluff.

#1 people play big cards. You have trip queens and there are only two cards in the deck higher than a queen, but brother both of those cards are on the board. Also again, people play high cards, when there is the possibility of a Broadway, trust me brother, you are going to get shown a Broadway often.

#2 if you fold you turned your hand into a bluff. Brother, if you bet and fold to a raise, then that means your bet was a bluff. Don't turn trip queens into a bluff on a board with a A, a K, and another Broadway card when instead you can just check back. You see now that betting close to pot is bad. Betting 1/2 is still going to feel bad when they raise. And even betting 1/3 pot won't do much if you aren't balanced in your use of 1/3 sized bets on rivers.

Trust me brother, people will give you their money in this game. You don't have to make questionable value bets that are more likely to be value cutting yourself.

Last edited by September.28; 03-16-2020 at 06:43 PM.
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03-17-2020 , 02:42 AM
I would have bet the turn to better define his range.

On the river, If I have to bet I will bet smaller like 1/3(with some balancing)


I agree with September, there are alot of ways for people to lose money to you on PLO.
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03-17-2020 , 03:16 AM
River sizing is terrible. We block all the hands that you're targeting with your bet (AK/AQ) aswell.
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03-17-2020 , 03:18 PM
My value range is so small here, AQ (not sure), QQ, JT, most of it being JT, which I want to bet close to pot with. If I have 2 sizes, both ranges are going to be super small. I guess this is ok but looks very easy to play against.
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03-17-2020 , 03:20 PM
can i know why you didnt bet the turn?
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03-17-2020 , 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evante
can i know why you didnt bet the turn?
This

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03-22-2020 , 04:11 PM
i would bet the turn around 2/3 to 3/4 pot, esp after villain has shown enough weakness and you picked up that draw. it looks like a nice delayed cbet.

as played, muck river
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03-22-2020 , 06:36 PM
River value bet is fine, although the sizing is too large, exactly what slightly worse hands do you expect villain to have with his line? Instead target weak two pair or Ax hero calls with a smaller sizing.
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