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02-25-2012 , 02:35 PM

Zacharrrr

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Villain is LUFCBas

i 3bet him pre bc he gives up flops waaayyyy lite vs me

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PL Omaha $10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($245)
Hero ($2,325)
UTG ($1,000)
CO ($1,000)
BTN ($2,164)

Dealt to Hero J

fold, fold, BTN raises to $30, fold, Hero raises to $95, BTN calls $65

FLOP ($195) 2

Hero bets $110, BTN calls $110

TURN ($415) 2

Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($415) 2

T 8 7

Hero checks, BTN bets $350, Hero raises to $1,090

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02-25-2012 , 04:04 PM

MATT111

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Nothing wrong with that even though his bet sizing makes his range look pretty polarized, so this makes me like calling/folding a little bit more.

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02-25-2012 , 07:25 PM

NeverScaredB

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I don't like it even with our blockers. He's probably not bluffing this river much the way the board ran out with everything that missed. What thin value hands is he supposed to fold? K7 exactly?

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02-25-2012 , 07:49 PM

sapster

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It feels like the type of combos you are representing are going to be barreling this turn very often unless you are balancing very well. I think you are going to get hero called or run into the nuts here too often. I'd be happier c/r the river if i had the Jh with my blockers or if I had a read that he uses that sizing for thin value/bluffs.

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02-25-2012 , 08:49 PM

ws1988

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also 3 bet pre oop???

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02-25-2012 , 09:18 PM

LazurusLong2

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Originally Posted by ws1988

also 3 bet pre oop???

OP reads, check it out.

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02-25-2012 , 10:00 PM

SeaKing

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Would have bet the river myself.

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02-25-2012 , 10:08 PM

sapster

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Hero is going to have a perceived weak range on this river, villain is probably betting anything he'd call a bet with, so to get more value and protect yourself from getting bluffed too much I don't think we should ever have a leading range on this river.
How often to cr bluff is a very hard question to answer without knowing a lot more about the range you get to the river with this way and I'm generally a fan of this I just think the sizing from him along with how he perceives our range after checking the turn makes this a losing play, fold >call> cr.

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02-25-2012 , 11:27 PM

VictorChandler

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betting river i think is way better then cr. are u really cr'ing river with j9/96? i think you probably bet it out on the riverm especially since his range is weighted towards 1 pair hands

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02-25-2012 , 11:30 PM

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VictorChandler

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Originally Posted by sapster

i think this is wrong. because villian will check down AKxx, yet he might hero-call a river bet since we look polarized. so no, villian does not bet anything he would call imo.

and again, with OPs read that basically villian gives his bets credit, i like leading river for 300

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02-26-2012 , 06:11 AM

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Zacharrrr

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i never like leading river

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02-26-2012 , 07:10 AM

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MATT111

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Originally Posted by Zacharrrr

i never like leading river

Ya. Leading river is bad imo. Pretty sure this cant be bad, at least if we dont do it 100% when we have blockers. Depends on how often we have J9 here.

Last edited by MATT111; 02-26-2012 at 07:32 AM.

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02-26-2012 , 10:01 PM

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ALL1N

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IMO his range is too J9 heavy for this, despite our blockers. C/c seems better to me.

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02-26-2012 , 11:51 PM

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Hoopster81

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would be pretty concerned when someone who gives up flops waaayyyy lite vs you takes this line

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02-27-2012 , 02:09 AM

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papag

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Originally Posted by Hoopster81

would be pretty concerned when someone who gives up flops waaayyyy lite vs you takes this line

+1, it sounds like villian should show up with 69, j9, k7 a lot.

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