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[5/0 10 rock] Pair + wrap vs two all in's [5/0 10 rock] Pair + wrap vs two all in's

10-24-2019 , 04:34 PM
Game is playing with winner straddles to $10. Very loose preflop.

Villain 1 is an unknown, seems to know Omaha basics but is gambling and playing loose. Has been playing draws slow and made hands fast. $1080 effective
Villain 2 is a long time pro who plays a lot of Omaha, doesn't fold equity postflop, playing pretty tight raising range pre. $880 effective
Hero covers, has been playing tight / nitty.

Four limps to hero OTB with AKJT, we overlimp, villain 1 completes single blind, villain two pots his straddle in EP to $80, folds to us on the button, we call, villain 1 calls
Could definitely raise this pre but I prefer a limp with no nut suits, given that most raises were going 4-5 ways to the flop. Once it gets raised by V2, we don't have a super strong hand but with dead money + position I think we gotta see a flop, and our hand plays well if it gets heads up.
Flop: QJ5 ($300)
V1 checks, V2 bets $225, we call, V1 pots all in for $1000, V2 calls, we call

So reasons for calling: all our outs are nut outs, we've got 13 of them, $2325 in the pot and 775 to call means we need roughly 25% equity, so we need ~6-7 outs to be good so we can be sharing ~half our outs and still be ok
Reasons for folding: we're probably sharing outs with multiple all ins in front of us, our pair isn't doing us any favors with two all in's

In game this felt like a snap call, after the hand I thought it was maybe closer than I was assuming
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10-24-2019 , 06:22 PM
God you must raise this hand on the button. Never limp that again. And yes flop is a snapcall.
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10-25-2019 , 12:41 PM
I raise the button, and I probably go ahead and re-pot over V2 pre. Easy call on the flop.
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10-25-2019 , 11:03 PM
Hero can't get away from this hand on flop as played.
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10-27-2019 , 01:22 PM
Obviously the money goes in on this flop as played
Not even sure why you're asking this question
But you need to rasie yourself when v2 bets

Don't be such a nit pre
You're the button ffs raise it up
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10-28-2019 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Obviously the money goes in on this flop as played
Not even sure why you're asking this question
But you need to rasie yourself when v2 bets

Don't be such a nit pre
You're the button ffs raise it up
This. Pathetic PLO nit
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10-29-2019 , 08:29 PM
Raise pre, get it in on the flop. Don't mind your flat the first time on the flop, can go either way there, fistpump call when it gets back to you for a grand
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10-29-2019 , 08:30 PM
Also not sure why the above posters are being so rude, you came into this forum with a well typed out hand that felt close to you, unsure why people feel the need to berate you
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10-29-2019 , 11:03 PM
I get why people are calling me a nit - pre is real nitty here.

This is the smallest stakes plo game that runs so I'm playing it underrolled and underskilled, so I've defaulted to minimizing variance till I can get 50 buy ins and a better understanding of how to play.

It's nitty and I'm not proud of it, but it's better than busting my roll or... Going back to holdem
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10-29-2019 , 11:11 PM
business?
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