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01-27-2016 , 07:53 AM

sandman1

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 74

Hello,
Villain is unknown.
What I should make?
Bet/call
check
call pre

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $2.54
SB: $2.12
BB: $3.93
UTG: $3.02
MP: $3.53
Hero (CO): $3.12

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with T

UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.43) 5

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.26, UTG raises to $1.20, Hero ???

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01-27-2016 , 08:26 AM

Controlling

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 593

Get it in and hope for the best... fold only if you have the read that he is check-raising only monsters in these spots.

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01-27-2016 , 08:59 AM

thsheriff

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 199

At <PLO25 I reckon this is a call, maybe a fold, when villain x/r's in this spot. GII seems bad this deep, when you are almost always pretty far behind.

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01-27-2016 , 11:02 AM

MadDogMoody

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Originally Posted by Controlling

Get it in and hope for the best... fold only if you have the read that he is check-raising only monsters in these spots.

GII in this spot can only be bad for us. 150bb effective vs UTG flatting a 3-bet, this can only be bad for KKxx.

Fold. I don't see any redraws and unless villain is a maniac then I only see us drawing to 7 outs or so.

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01-27-2016 , 11:17 AM

OmahaFanatical4

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fold you are crushed

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01-27-2016 , 11:37 AM

mallajaw

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 21

i think i would peel here and see how the board plays
also, i would check back the flop

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01-27-2016 , 11:54 AM

ViktorLuis

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,471

Checking back flop. We can lever our future straight blockers without the increased risk of being check/raised flop lighter compared to a lockdown turn when we have blockers and players act more straightforward, allowing us to win in more ways then showing down the hand.

A hand like KK33 is a better choice to bet/fold for above mentioned reason amongst several others.

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01-27-2016 , 12:42 PM

OmahaFanatical4

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I prefer a flop bet to a check.

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01-27-2016 , 05:42 PM

.isolated

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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

I prefer a flop bet to a check.

Good reasoning.

Flop check seems incredibly standard for all of the reasons VL stated. Also, when we bet, we should fold, so there's that.

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01-27-2016 , 06:17 PM

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grinder

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Originally Posted by MadDogMoody

Sometimes it isnt that bad. But it`s true, that we ale often in bad shape. Didn`t consider the SPR tbh. Only saw the amout of money and not its relative value.

Check da flop and see what the turn brings us is better.

Did anyone focus on the text?

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01-27-2016 , 06:30 PM

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OmahaFanatical4

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the only reason u guys think checking the flop is best is cause we got check raised

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01-27-2016 , 06:32 PM

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Controlling

grinder

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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

the only reason u guys think checking the flop is best is cause we got check raised

True!

what about check or cbet/fold? I could live with that? or force hand to muck after getted checked to us...

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01-28-2016 , 09:43 AM

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thsheriff

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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

the only reason u guys think checking the flop is best is cause we got check raised

What reason is there to bet here? Maybe opponent gives up a lot on flops? You're never getting better to fold and I can't see opponent calling with much worse. And there aren't many turn cards we're happy to see here.

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01-29-2016 , 03:09 AM

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Mt.FishNoob

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most options seem pretty close, I wouldn't favor check or bet but have a random element to me doing it. Calling after he check raise is also close.

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