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09-07-2009 , 05:55 AM
def bet something on the turn.
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09-07-2009 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chinaski101
Isn't checking the turn a good way to rep a6 or worse. Not many people are going to fire the turn again with worse than ak after getting called in 2 spots on a pretty dry board. I check it and hope someone fires with 2 pair, or tjq hands.

i really disagree here. your first statement just nullified your second statement. although checking does seem like you were repping A6 and now don't feel comfortable firing a 2nd bullet, but at the same time two pair hands will want to get to showdown as fast as possible and will most likely check behind here. if you had such a positive reason someone will bet for you here if checked to, a c/r would be nice but i think this is just a perfect board to get a solid 3 streets in as AK, QJT, KK, and 66 will not be folding to another 3/4~ pot bet on the turn. getting cute in these spots are just not worth it.
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09-07-2009 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alv_
i really disagree here. your first statement just nullified your second statement.
Not many people in our shoes. Hence, once we bet we have at least ak in the view of everyone else.
If one of the other two have a wrap, ak or better they should defo bet when checked to.
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09-07-2009 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wazz
Limper is kipa58, I have him as 38/12/1.7/1.5k hands. Raiser is playing 27/14/1.3/200 hands.
sure i'd check to a 65/30/3.5 or something but these guys aren't betting <AK or QJT if checked to.
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09-07-2009 , 06:41 PM
Hero makes apparently the worst play and checks to call

$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($155.00)
UTG+1 ($255.25)
CO ($835.05)
BTN ($296.20)
Hero (SB) ($992.50)
BB ($595.45)

Pre-flop: ($9, 6 players) Hero is SB 6 4 A A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $6, CO raises to $24, 1 fold, Hero calls $21, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $18

Flop: A 6 K ($78, 3 players)
Hero bets $60, UTG+1 calls $60, CO calls $60

Turn: 8 ($258, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $180, Hero calls $180, UTG+1 goes all-in $171.25

River: K ($789.25, 3 players)
Hero?
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09-07-2009 , 07:14 PM
i say keep your line of inconsistence and shove river for max WTF effect in villains mind
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09-07-2009 , 07:33 PM
value bet, AK will shove anyways. a full pot shove will get 66 to fold imo
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09-07-2009 , 07:52 PM
i'd really shove the turn once co bets tbh

as it is, i agree with greywolf
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09-08-2009 , 12:12 AM
100% shove turn.
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09-08-2009 , 04:52 AM
c/r turn once you check. the risk of "scaring away" the shorter stack doesnt make up for the time the big stack puts everything in.

river is close with the dry sidepot and something like 300/call (losing to quads very often when raised) is probably best.
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09-08-2009 , 08:20 AM
Im in the 100% shove turn camp and.....

........did u rly lose to quads?
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09-08-2009 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by greywolf
i say keep your line of inconsistence and shove river for max WTF effect in villains mind
I'm totally with this. and I'd type after the hand "I'm baked/stoned right now."
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09-09-2009 , 11:27 AM
Close your client because one of them has KKxx and save money from the tilt that you are about to get into?
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09-09-2009 , 02:49 PM
I feel that I should be shoving this river because he's either calling or he's not and the amount I bet won't come into play, unless he has specifically 6s full.

Results: he snap-called my shove and I was very surprised to see the pot ship my way when he turned over AK.

$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($155.00)
UTG+1 ($255.25)
CO ($835.05)
BTN ($296.20)
Hero (SB) ($992.50)
BB ($595.45)

Pre-flop: ($9, 6 players) Hero is SB 6 4 A A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $6, CO raises to $24, 1 fold, Hero calls $21, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $18

Flop: A 6 K ($78, 3 players)
Hero bets $60, UTG+1 calls $60, CO calls $60

Turn: 8 ($258, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $180, Hero calls $180, UTG+1 goes all-in $171.25

River: K ($789.25, 3 players)
Hero goes all-in $728.50, CO goes all-in $571.05

Final Pot: $1,931.35
UTG+1 shows: Q J 9 T
CO shows: K J A J
Hero shows: 6 4 A A

Hero wins $2,085.80 ( won +$1,093.30 )
UTG+1 lost -$255.25
CO lost -$835.05
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09-09-2009 , 04:22 PM
nh.

do u think he folds if u chk shove the turn? Does anyone?
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09-09-2009 , 04:36 PM
I sure as hell hope so otherwise I played it awfully and got incredibly lucky
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09-09-2009 , 05:00 PM
Do you shove a 9o river? (the way you played it i think you should).

Its pretty obvious kipa is drawing so if he folds to your shove on some type of draw completing river you could make some nasty steals with one pair. i.e. something like K457 that lead and picked up a draw. river comes a 6o (anything but an AKQJT), you rando spaz shove etc etc. just a thought.
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09-09-2009 , 05:20 PM
The way you played the whole hand and the fact that the river creates a dry side pot makes for some very interesting river play. I don't ever think you can check the river expecting CO to bet a dry side pot with a weak made hand, so you're pretty much shoving the river no matter what comes, right? I wouldn't want to be bluffed out here on a straight card, either.

Good news for you that he had the only hand that likely pays off your river shove. I still think betting turn is optimal, though.
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09-09-2009 , 06:12 PM
I like pre and flop action and half of the turn. Obv you should raise the turn since shorty is not folding his wrap with less than psb left.

Must be nice to run goot!
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09-09-2009 , 10:08 PM
no chance he folds to a turn c-shove, who foldS TOP TWO PAIR!

(i would cr turn)
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09-09-2009 , 10:32 PM
I would bet turn, both folding is a good result
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09-09-2009 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeestein
I would bet turn, both folding is a good result
It really isn't, I still have the nuts (not counting sf or quads) on 23/44 rivers, and I have a passive player with the deeper stack behind me.
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09-09-2009 , 11:15 PM
haha coincidentally, betting also allows the pot to get bigger!

the turn gets checked around too often
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09-09-2009 , 11:31 PM
That's fine as well, they're going to hit second-best runner runners a bunch and pay me off. Them seeing the river in a $258 pot > me taking down a $258 pot.
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09-10-2009 , 12:10 AM
either you win a $258 pot or you get like a $700+ pot leading to the river or you get it in for stacks, or you have to fade some outs vs a shortstack
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